Just get them…
I got a 7950X3D with 6000 mhz RAM and I absolutely wreck WoW now. I went from 60-80 FPS in 1440p in Valdrakken on an overclocked AMD 5950x with 3600 mhz RAM and 3090 RTX to 100-140 FPS in 4k resolution with a 4090 RTX.
It’s absolutely game changing. I’d wait for the 7800X3D if you just game and don’t do productivity stuff…
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Is this on the feels benchmark or did you do some legit testing?
it’s too hard to test in this game
i’m willing to bet the gains are real, but not worth the $699 + $300 + $150 it would cost for most people
I don’t agree that it’s too hard to test. Perfect? No, but there are better ways to do this than feels benchmark.
There’s just too many variables to get real scientific data; best you can do is LFR runs and hope the compositions and behaviors are close.
And things you can reliably duplicate (like gryphon runs) aren’t meaningful.
This is just the nature of multiplayer games.
You make it sound black and white when it isn’t. Anyway, I already know the issues and am not interested in debating with you. I think there are multiple ways to benchmark WoW and was curious if OP had more than their intuition.
plus you are testing with different RAM (DDR4 vs DDR5 platform) different GPU, different resolution, and what seems like the naked eye with a 33-40% variable. I’m sure it runs WoW great after all the 5800X3D was AMD’s best CPU for WoW before the 7 series X3D but to quote techspot " 7950X3D Review: Gamers, Don’t Buy This One!"
I think that’s exactly what I was saying. That it is so difficult to benchmark this game in absolute terms that you can’t make it black or white on how much better (or worse) it is.
Hard to believe even with the 7950x3D or 13900k the RTX 4090 is STILL bottlenecked by the CPU. The GPU is THAT GOOD lol. Until next gen CPUs we wont see what the 4090 is REALLY capable of
Sounds like sour grapes from techspot with a side of intel shilling. Yes its expensive, but it has a higher boost and higher L3 cache than the 7800X3D. Will it be within 5-10%? Probably.
Also, going from 30-40 percent increase in performance while going from 1440p to 4k is noticeable. I’ve run Timespy extreme on my old 5950x/3600 mhz RAM/3090 RTX vs 7950X3D/6000 mhz Ram/4090 RTX. It is noticeably faster and smoother.
sounds like someone commented on the article without actually reading it with a side of not knowing the reviewer has a history of being pro AMD
it also may need better cooling as well as only half the 7950X3D cores actually feature 3D V-Cache technology. Also, the L3 cache is not split evenly across the two CCDs in the CPU package. The cores in the primary CCD get the standard 32 MB, that’s integrated into the CCD, plus the stacked 64 MB 3D V-Cache, for a total of 96 MB. The cores in the second CCD only get 32 MB. You also have a price difference between the two CPUs that’s equivalent to a 7600x, itself an excellent gaming CPU.
You upgraded your CPU, RAM, and GPU. I would hope it’s “noticeably faster and smoother”. Regardless, congratulations on your new setup but to say “everyone should just get it” is a stretch.
This is going to be a bit of a ramble but I want to explain it in a way that the common consumer will understand since this is actually a pretty complex CPU
I agree with you Lilybugg that the Ryzen 9 7950x3D is not for everyone. Its a niche CPU and does not make sense for the common gaming consumer. As you have already mentioned due to the way the processor works even if you buy the 7900x3D you are basically using a 7800x3D when gaming due to the fact that the other eight cores will be parked while gaming. You also have the headache of keeping up with Microsoft game bar to make sure that it is recognizing all your games as actual games.
So who is the 7950x3D for? It is for someone who uses their computer production work and gaming. So when they are doing productivity work they will have a full 16 core 7950x thats a tad slower than the true 7950x while being more power efficient at the same time. However when they switch to gaming it will park 8 of the 16 cores and swicth to a 7800x3D essentially. This is a niche consumer market
Since Steve Walton took over at HUB and does most of the Techspot articles, I would say historically they have been more AMD biased than Intel.
It’s a money grab since they delayed the launch of the 7800X3D, the true gamer’s CPU.
They know there’s no broad application for a 16 core chip with extra L3 cache (on only half the cores), and gamers don’t need 16 cores. As you say, the market for this specific product is very niche. As such, it doesn’t make sense for it to be available first. Except to make money on people willing to buy a niche product they don’t actually need.
If they didn’t delay the 7800X3D launch it would have been a much more palatable product line.
If Intel pulled this crap, people would be up in arms. Slightly surprised AMD hasn’t been called out more for this move. They knew the 7800X3D would be the clear pick among people and sandbagged the launch date so they could sell more expensive CPUs. Personally I find the whole line overpriced but then again I find Intel’s 13 Gen overpriced and Nvidia RTX 4xxx line overpriced.
I’ll be hopping on the 7800X3D train. Got my mobo, RAM, PSU, and cooler bracket ready and will be using the rest of the parts from my current NCase 8700k build.
The loud minority are usually the one that are heard.
Most of the crowd I work with couldn’t careless what they get as long as it didn’t cost them their soul.
@Griefs
Join the T1 gang, abandon your Ncase, sell it to me.
Lol I had to wait months for the opportunity to snatch the case. It will probably last me until I die :X
Who are you and what did you do to the Griefs I know?
The REAL Griefs wouldn’t dirty themselves with AMD stink