Only solution is to commit publicly to never buy an AMD card again. Expensive hardware with support issues that haven’t been resolved for close to a year now. They don’t care enough to solve these pesky gamer problems, so let’s put our money where our mouth is I suppose.
How cards that cost up to 1k are are marketed as gaming products with this many persistent issues is scandalous.
1 Like
Well like I brought up earlier in the thread, the games that do have stability issues with AMD cards are just a drop in a bucket vs the rest of the games that function fine. To AMD, maybe they don’t feel like pooling a ton of resources to fix some driver issue, that might require a ton of work that could potentially break things for many other games, for something like 0.05% of their userbase.
Every company practices min-maxing priorities. Even WoW still has broken old quests and minor bugs that have been that way for eons. Either way, the more people complain to them about it to AMD, the greater the chance they will take action.
EDIT: And by complaining about it to AMD, I mean using their bug report tool, their forums and any other official AMD channels that their devs pay attention to.
1 Like
I run 5900x with a 7900xt and have no crash issues whatsoever. Clearly it has to be something else that isn’t compatible with your machine.
Problem seems to only during boss fights in dungeons. Really great when running mythic dungeons.
24.4.1 has definitely cuts down the the amount of GPU hangs except in this situation. Raids are fine. Literally just boss fights in dungeons. And once you get one you’ll get a few more in quick succession.
7800X3D, B650E motherboard and 7900XTX. Latest chipset drivers, latest GPU drivers. Used latest DDU to uninstall previous drivers, installed clean.
1 Like
I had this issue for like 8 months, until 24.4.1, at which the random crashing on my 7900xt completley stopped while using dx 12.
1 Like
They will have to fix it eventually with or without AMD help, i do not understand why call of duty studio is working with AMD while World of Warcraft game studio is ignoring the issues along with AMD, entire expansion ruined for me spend 200 euros just for nothing because if barely played the expansion this time and just let my sub mostly run out, at most i have tested maybe once or two times to see if issue gone or if game is in playable state and its not.
This has to be the biggest scam ever, and i have had bad experience with NVIDIA as well they acknowledged the issue tho but they really took their sweet time to fix, probably because they had to blacklist all the shaders individually which is probably a ton, because the flickering shadow issue on NVIDIA gpu’s could be either avoided by clearing shader cache before starting the game, or play on dx11 which had worse performance even for NVIDIA users.
It’s probably spell effects and so on that cause problems.
16+ months now and Blizzard should really feel ashamed no compensation or refund at this point either, all i can do is level new characters, not gonna let users put up with my BS ruining mythic+ runs.
I think its unwise to put so much blame for a gpu driver issue on blizzard
This issue isnt really a blizzard specific problem, its an AMD specific one.It can be frustrating to have such expensive hardware that suddenly stops working when blizzard releases a patch for their game. The temp solution many of us used until AMD releases a driver to fix all the other problems is to use Direct X 11 instead of 12.
1 Like
It’s Blizzard problem even tho AMD drivers spiraled out of control into driver hell for 8+ months in 2022 till 2023, the game always ran stable without issues on 22.5.1 until it did not run fine on 22.5.1 the issues started since pre patch and have been ignored since then, there for i will blame Blizzard for it a lot more then AMD, do not miss understand tho AMD also has a responsibility in this, they pushed unstable drivers for 8+ months in 2022 and have yet to fix all these issues even in 2024.
Yes, patches happen and then drivers are required at times to be updated for those games. Drivers are made for games not games for drivers. Its frustrating for sure but its also not a problem that a large percentage of the population are experiencing.
1 Like
Seems like anything you say you are just defending Blizzard, even tho they have had issues at pre patch for months even for NVIDIA users, and its the whole reason i switched from NVIDIA to AMD only for NVIDIA to have same issues with pre patch.
World of Warcraft is broken.
My Sapphire Pulse 7900 XTX is not even 24 hours old and just had this issue. Pretty disheartening seeing this thread and all the reddit posts about it – probably just going to return it and go back to Nvidia considering it looks like (??) both AMD and Blizzard cannot isolate the issue for months/year?
1 Like
I did notice increasing instability before it occurred - bringing browser to main focus and it would hang for a bit then go back to normal. The final time it happened and when the crash occurred I went back to focus on a YouTube window and a total lockup happened.
Event Viewer has no info other than the driver crashed and successfully restarted.
In the midst of building a new PC and waiting for parts, the GPU arrived early so I swapped it in for my 3080.
Specs are i7-9700k, Gigabyte Z390 Designare, Corsair Vengeance 32gb DDR4
1 Like
EDIT: Welp, nix that. Crashed… even with clock speed well within limits. This card’s going back and just getting an Nvidia card again. This is just a terrible experience. I feel bad for folks who don’t have the means to return their card / get a different one.
I was digging more into this on my end… it appears that my 7900 XTX is boosting my clock speeds way beyond the specs of the card itself. This also appears to happen significantly more often in WoW than other games I’ve been testing today.
I’m on a Sapphire Pulse 7900 XTX; the specs on that card have the max frequency at 2525mhz, when my driver would crash it would spike over 3000mhz (???).
I went into AMD Adrenaline’s Tuning tab, everything was on Default – I then clicked on “Custom” and, to my surprise, the Max Frequency here was set to over 3000mhz around the value I noticed my driver crashed at.
I changed the Max Frequency here to my actual GPU’s spec and, so far (/fingerscrossed) I haven’t encountered a crash nor have I noticed its clock speed ever boosting out of spec.
It would SEEM that the AMD driver isn’t actually polling the GPUs actual clock speed specs and is instead just applying whatever AMD Adrenaline has set as the default values (that aren’t visible until you click on “Custom”).
Seems like a massive oversight on AMD’s part if this is the case… also, if this is the case, it’s also comical that they let this go on for so long (from what I’ve read, again – brand new AMD user here for about a day now).
1 Like
I had a bad processor that was causing crashes in other games. really annoying to figure out.
Now i have crashing in wow. and I didn’t for a bit now it suddenly has it. Played for 5 minutes today had a crash. three times yesterday or day before I forget. Today was a complete restart. I am ready to start over at this point. just buy a prebuilt of everything non amd and be done. brand new hardware should not be giving me and everyone else these issues.
1 Like
You would think since Microsoft acquired Activision Blizzard they would force them to fix this, but no they haven’t done a single thing yet then shutdown a studio that had great succes, while ignoring Activision Blizzard that is having a huge failure right now for us Radeon users.
If you follow basic troubleshooting steps stress testing cpu memtesting memory, testing GPU in other games then World of Warcraft it should usually be easy to figure things out
With CPU you have to keep in mind variable load testing as well as at different loads you get different boost target, which complicates things so just running prime95 is not enough these days, running prime95 just forces the CPU to boost far less then it would normally, its basically forcing stability where there is no stability sometimes.
I would recommend OCCT has various ways to test CPU even memory at same time, just do not only rely on OCCT for memtesting or even CPU testing.
Drivers have had issues with video playback while gaming before, and problems with browsers, there was a increase of reports of browser related issues in 24.2.1 and 24.3.1 but haven’t seen many reports these days with 24.4.1, but then again if been less focused on user reports these days, reading feedback on Reddit.
If you are using chrome or anything chrome based, i would consider giving Firefox a try see if the problems go away, also for the browser related issues while gaming send a bug report via the AMD Bug Report Tool
Describe description and steps as clear as possible, because you probably aren’t only one experiencing these issues.
Same for World of Warcraft issues.
It’s probably not any kind of magic bullet, but I’m trying out the TdrDelay/TdrDdiDelay tweak.
When it comes to gaming, 99 times out of 100, if something is going to trigger a full TDR, it’s going to trigger it no matter how you set the registry settings. About the only times it makes a difference is if you’re a game dev(shader comp and large asset loading/converting, etc) or someone who does a lot of rendering in programs like Maya or Blender, but that’s because the stall conditions are just from heavy loads and they eventually finish their math.
i deleted all of the preset game settings in adrenalin and just set my own and have not had a crash in over a month. 24.3.1 drivers and no amd presets.
It just handles when the gpu driver resets, it will still remain frozen but for much longer then the standard delay that has been set, and likely won’t do anything other then make a problem much worse.
Alrighty. So, I have not had my computer crash in… a decade or more? I was very surprised when the screen bugged out, weird colors everywhere, and the blue screen of death was in a small box in the screen (not even covering the whole screen like it usually does). Immediately seemed like a graphics card issue to me. My computer restarted and now here I am in this thread.
My card is an AMD 6650 xt running the 31.0.21031.1005 driver. This is the first time trying out an AMD card. Not good.
This is however, not the first crash of WoW I have had recently. Only 5 days ago, I had WoW crash on its own. Both times this happened, I was tabbed out of WoW. Very peculiar. My entire system did not go down the first time, but it did today.
Edit: I see some people saying things about Intel CPU’s. I figured I’d add that my CPU is not Intel. It’s an AMD Ryzen 7. I also don’t do anything like overclocking. I also run WoW nearly on the lowest graphical settings under the belief that it will not strain my system, so I doubt I was overheating anything. It’s also quite cool in my room. No crazy background tasks running. I WILL say however, that I think both times that WoW crashed, I was watching a youtube video. I noticed that my card always spins up whenever I load a video for the first time, this being because encoding is now something that is apparently offloaded to GPUs now as I’ve read. So, it could be that both the video encoding task and running a video game at the same time is not good for it. Just speculation though.
1 Like