Am I the only one who took warts and all seriously?

of course this isn’t true vanilla.
we knew this
and its 2020

that doesn’t mean i’m ok with blizzard tinkering with things anymore than they have.

No. It doesn’t.

It was 2004, not 1984.

Completely wrong, the addon API was much more powerful when the game launched then today. Back then an addon could make a single button which targeted any person who needs a heal or decurse, choose which spell to use, then cast it on multiple people with one press.

The API today is very limited compared to then and the addons today reflect that.

Yes it is.

This is ridiculous and I suspect you know it.

Imagine if cops could never make deals with criminals. We’d never have snitches, far fewer big busts, etc.

Just because something bad happened doesn’t mean we HAVE to reverse it; the unfortunate reality is that sometimes suspending justice to ensure future justice is preferrable.

Quick note; I see dozens of posts misunderstanding analogies. Just to make sure, I am NOT in any way claiming that criminals and legal justice is comparable in degree to this situation, OR that Changes are somehow unjust.

I agree. If you’re not willing to allow for adjustments for the increased population caps, you’re just asking for classic to be a completely different game.

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I see a lot of people saying changes need to keep happening, because some things aren’t authentic. No changes is dead or a meme.

This is the logic of a child. You’re screaming GOTCHA! now you HAVE to do my changes because things have already changed! This is logic most if not all of you would not fly with a real life authority figure.

Blizzard is going to make some changes. I have to accept that because there’s some issues that tarnish a company’s reputation, and some that are so bad for the health of the game that they can’t continue. I have my own personal view of where the line is on that, and I’m sure the rest of you do too.

That does not mean everything you do not like, find inconvenient, or is bad for the game crosses that line. More importantly, not everything crosses the blizzard developer’s line.

As a consumer, I have to come to terms with the fact that a) they are going to change some things. And also that b) there are some things that will not change. And that I’m not always gonna agree with what changes or does not change.

(also I’m not talking about anyone specific with this post, I go to bed and there’s 30+ new replies so rather than arguing with specific people I’ll just address the trend I saw)

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Not to mention a fallacy to begin with, but I’m done arguing with people about it. Some people just want to argue for the sake of arguing and come to no real conclusion. Or, at the very least, try to have the last word (as if that means, anything). Meanwhile, throwing out ad hominems, while they’re at it. It’s not worth arguing about it, anymore.

I agree with your non-sequitir. However in this discussion, your implication blames the victim. You should be better than that.

Believe me, I know exactly where this comes from. Too many threads have me shaking my head thinking they’re the people Brack was talking about when he said “you think you do, but you don’t”.

Thankfully, threads on a forum =/= everyone. Enough people did want what we’ve got, and the Blizzard intent was never to update or modernize this game.

(Never know. In another decade Blizzard may try to pull a WOW Classic Remastered. Thankfully, that day is not today.)

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He clearly wasnt wrong, “From a certain point of view.” (That of the content locust and “modern” gamers)

You aren’t a victim.

Conceded. Just a nearly random passerby.

I think that’s the real issue. And it’s been an issue for a year, or maybe 2 years – long before Classic went live, this was an active Forum topic.

Problem 1: What does that mean? If “a modern game with a Vanilla feel” means something different to everyone who says it, there IS no actual game that would please us all. That would mean we all want custom games, and BlizzCorp doesn’t have the technology to do that.

Or maybe “a modern game with a Vanilla feel” is impossible. Maybe the “Vanilla feel” came from a playerbase that is very different in 2020.

Problem 2: Who can design such a game? Can the Blizzard devs?

The forum has been FULL of players who wanted to be “the game designer for the new Classic”. And most of them have told us endlessly “we don’t trust the Blizzard designers to make the right choices”.

Problem 3: Maybe Blizzard doesn’t have the resources to create a “new modern game”. Maybe they “cheaped out” and made a copy of Classic because that took only 10% of the man-months a modern game needed.

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