that would be bad. they should give us pre illidan lvl 60 outlands and other tbc content ported into sod and have it stay lvl 60. they need to expand the game more horizontally
So maybe to add on to what you are saying… like maybe have 10 talent points squirreled away somewhere and do the TBC trees.
i think +1 talent point should be a stat on gear
If I see a dude walking around the golf course wearing hockey gear including skates while complaining that the game is too slow, he can’t walk properly on the grass and that he’s only there to hit the ball as hard as he can and shoulder people out of the way, well people are going to tell that dude he’s playing the wrong game. Nobody sane is going to start talking about ripping out the grass and putting in ice.
Bro how would tbc sod work 
SoD is TBC man… People love TBC because of class functionality. People don’t want runes and borrow power man.
Peace n love cuh
no we all want TBC which is why we are playing Fresh…if SOD was going into TBC and Further no one would play fresh
They’re limited by the fact they use the Era Client (and code branch). Which means if they were to add, say, Twilight Highlands (the area is denoted on the world map as a ‘zone’ but you can’t zoom into the ‘zone view’ of it) it would also appear on Era and HC.
Basically, I want them to finish World of Warcraft. They had ‘concepts’ of Outland in 1.12.1 (shenanigans through the end portal of Deadmines). They had ‘concepts’ of the Emerald Dream (those plants we see in Nightmare Incursions are from that zone). They had a ‘running idea’ on Northrend (old Azeroth map sketch by the devs).
What I don’t want is the all the baggage that came with those eventual zones/areas.
Why did you come to SoD then? Because if you get TBC SoD, you’ll want Wrath SoD. The same “we want to continue our characters” reasoning will be used. How far forward in expansion do you want to go? And at what point are you just playing Retail: Reforged?
i’d love a TBC SoD, but unfortunately they wouldn’t put time into it and it’d be the same game from 20 years ago. blizzards min maxing effort and profit, and actually at 15 bucks a month i’ll secretly be happy SoD is ending bc we are not getting 15 dollars a month worth of a game at this time, initially we did
I want it but I dont look forward to how much of a mess the forums will be as soon as arenas start in SoD TBC… already got enough threads about SoD BG PvP imbalance… it would be 10x worse in SoD TBC.
I don’t know how limiting that actually is. PTR changes don’t immediately go live just because they’re the same branch. Changes are very much sectionalized, and withheld in various iterations of the game, so I really don’t see that as being a problem. If it was going to be a problem, it’d be their bad for not putting it in its own section either way, given the premise of sod / classic +.
That was a test zone, that was never actually meant to be a zone. They did have an azeroth version of hellfire peninsula though, but it just looked more or less like blasted lands. That deadmines area was my favorite easter egg to get to back in the day. Was able to climb up the walls with levitate, and then get summoned into an unknown zone in there, allowing my friends and I to fly around on flying mounts inside of there in retail wotlk. Still have a video of it, fun times.
Which ended up being scrapped for feeling a bit too samey… which, the incursions do feel a bit samey too.
Didn’t know about that one.
The issue has never been the client itself. Using the Era client was required, SoD was intended to be 1.15x with the additions, not changes to the base game.
It’s the difference between creating a uniquely new raid for Thunderan & copying him into existing instanced zone terrain. Or adding a single boss with numerically modified loot to Molten Core vs. re-designing the instance.
Season of Discovery was built from the same retail client that Era, TBC, Wrath, Cata and soon to be MoP started from. It’s why we’ve seen stuff like LUA errors for Glyphs in on the SOD PTR.
The issue has always been juggling multiple game patches under a shared database. They made changes to older patches which resulted in a various bugs within Cataclysm.
SoD shares a database with Classic Era, however, items and spells exclusive to SoD have a unique id for SoD. There should technically never be anything leak over unless it’s done intentionally. There are many changes to the base game like talents, spells, NPCs and objects in the world that don’t show up in Era for this reason.
Now, adding an entirely new zone would be tricky for SoD but here’s the good thing about Vanilla, much of the world is barren zones, some accessible, some hidden behind barriers. If they were to simply add to existing zones in the game, the objects and NPCs in the zones can be given unique identifiers to SoD and backed up as a separate patch.
This is why instanced portals exist. There a lot you can do with an instanced layer. There are concepts with Caverns of Time and the Dark Portal that could be designed into SoD. Heck, the entire Hyjal terrain is already in the vanilla client, it could easily be implemented by adding some sort of flight master mechanic to fly you there.
I never said I wanted SoD to go as far as Wrath. The difference between TBC and Wrath is night and day. Most of us consider BC to be a direct extension to Vanilla, whereas Wrath was where the game drastically changed.
Going to TBC would let us continue SoD, add a lot of content and buy them a lot of time to make new content. It would of course be complicated, I think you’d need to keep the class at the patch state that SoD P7 ends with and do not introduce anything new from TBC.
Simply open the dark portal, keep the existing level cap and alter the quest rewards to give something other than experience.
If SoD have TBC that will be awesome!
I think they need to restart SoD honestly. After phase 3 there was a big drop off after incursions and it never really recovered like it should have…
Let them draw up what TbC would look like /w runes and make it good then relaunch.
I would love TBC sod honestly. I like what they did with sod other than incursions. That really killed open world exploration which is kinda the whole point of classic.
Honestly with the level of dps players are doing they could just release tbc raids and gear as additional phases and not need to release the talents or increase the level cap. Rework 375 professions and give each faction paladin and shaman.
PTR is most-likely running on a separate Classic Era branch. But SoD is running on the Era (main) branch. That’s why everything has been NPCs, Runes, or Instances with the instance portal being an object (ie Azuregos’s instance). And in the case of Demon Fall Canyon, they use an equipped item to ‘spawn in’ the portal. As for the Nightmare Incursions, they use a buff to check what mobs to spawn.
I think that was the extent of how far into Outlands they had gotten before pivoting to making it an expansion instead of a content patch.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/hh3dmg/early_concept_of_wow_map_from_1999_and_the_broken/
And what happens ~1.5 years after TBC SoD? You’re nearing the end with Sunwell. What do you want after that? You right back where you are now; starring down the barrel at Naxx and still wanting to ‘continue your adventures’ [into TBC, from the current PoV].
This is why I say I wanted something different. There’s no point is just retreading the same expansions “with some changes”.
I want some World of Warcraft: What If ! 
((Anyone ever watch the TV series Sliders? That’s the aim. What if Muradin had taken up Frostmourne. What if the Defias king-napping had been thwarted. What if Varian had been able to shield his wife from the stone. What if Sylvanas decided NOT to side with the Horde, but instead remain independent. …What if Medivh had made the ultimate sacrifice; in defiance to Sargeras’s influence. - Take your pick! Same world; completed (!), different possibilities and stories.))
Dang, Ulduar was supposed to be a mega zone. That’s crazy.
I think this would be an effort to buy them more time for original content. They clearly seem to be struggling on that front.
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Sod TBC would be so epic, I really hope they do that! Blizzard keeps just recycling old content, classic classic and hardcore, then TBC classic soon. We need something new! I really hope we get TBC Sod
I would prefer current Blizzard not touch TBC with a 40 foot pole.