Title says most of it. I personally enjoy SoD over all other classic and retail versions. It’s just more “fun”. Obviously, there are things that I don’t like, but you can’t please everyone.
I can’t be the only one that would prefer all dev efforts go to making TBC SoD as opposed to all these other variants.
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I think the problem is that it’d take them pretty much redoing the entire rune system since tbc talents and skills would create overlap and balance issues. While I’d like a TBC SoD, the question becomes how far do they take that prospect? I wouldn’t at all want to see a SoD cata… and honestly wotlk had far more issues with it than I remembered it having.
Someone mentioned SoD TBC without a level cap increase, and I think that might be interesting / fun. Maybe tune down some of the mobs so they’re still red, but maybe not skulls. I guess the question in that scenario would be, what’s the motivator to do quests without leveling. Definitely think there’s a solid foundation for a fun idea in there somewhere.
Fresh without an xp boost just doesn’t sound appealing to me these days. Been there, done that multiple times… I just don’t have it in me to do it again.
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Honestly, I’d like to see comparable runes that make the player actually have to put some thought into do I want to play this way or that. Like a reduction of min/maxing. It’s 10 levels, so I could see a shoulder rune, then maybe 8-12 new runes in the old slots. Maybe even split the first 2 seasons to 5 levels a piece.
I’d pick like summer 2025 for S1 TBC as well, to give Naxx a good run.
I agree with the Cata thing… I don’t see it going that far. WotLK would be cool in theory, but then they’d have to build out the whole DK class.
WotLK made the world feel so dead, even northrend, and especially when they made WG into a bg instead of a world event. There was that world pvp node that they kinda made, and then just… didn’t reward honor or anything pvp related for (which to be fair, it was just kind of a pve quest area labeled as pvp).
I think they thoroughly screwed up with hybrid classes when it came to that. There’s almost never an actual comparable choice behind a rune when it comes to different specs, and that just made things like druid incredibly boring. Oh you’re a boomkin? I guess you’re taking x y and z rune because the others are only for feral and healing. Just not well thought out.
Communication on such a thing would go such a long ways. Being kept in the dark until the day before, and only hearing about updates due to leaks is just kinda cancer.
100% hoping for a continuation of SoD after naxx! Absolutely love it!
They just need to add some rewards for SoD cosmetics and put it in retail if you achieve something in SoD like they did with classic and the Frostbrood Protodrake!
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Why re-tread the same content…
I want a new experience that springboards off of Vanilla.
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To me classic felt new to me for SoD, not completely but it was “new” enough to make it interesting and fun. I think TBC has the same potential, and maybe turn to completely new from there. Although WotLK was my favorite xpac, I don’t particularly want to see it in SoD.
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What you want and what’s realistic are two drastically different things. We haven’t seen any new content, it’s all just been copy pasted and tweaked slightly. While that isn’t the worst thing in the world, I don’t realistically see making an “expansion” based off of that concept.
My idea is tbc sod would not increase the player level to 70 but remain at 60. That would solve the skill overlap issue. Instead we’d get additional runes to find like warlock seed of corruption.
The dungeon gear would be equivalent to aq10 gear while the first tbc raid would be a few ilevel above classic nax.
That would keep classic still relevant. Rep rewards would be close to bis to encourage people to complete zones kind of like what we are doing on silithis right now
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I wouldn’t mind if instead of them doing a tbc sod… they simply bring those raids to SOD… that’s the ideal classic+ to me as well. Keep these rebalances, keep the new abilities so classes feel… good? but keep expanding the raids without expanding the levels. Heck I’d be fine with raids dropping similar gear in terms of stats. I’d still run them all to collect the different sets of armors so I can wear what I want. As for bringing the tbc raids just bring tbc zones but remap them slightly so we don’t need flying. Teleport to the eye, etc etc etc.
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Probably… since they missed the mark with the first one. Folks wanted classic+, meaning modern graphics, modern view distances and draw in, optional all around where possible… and only Azeroth and all of the things they didn’t complete.
A completely finished Azeroth, not raids at every level. Not runes that don’t mean anything.
They really dropped the ball.
I truly dont understand people wanting to slog through classic again, I guess if you never played it in the first place maybe but I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see SOD go all the way through TBC and lich king
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I’d even be happy with a SoD Fresh (with some tightening up based on lessons of the past)
- No stupid xp boosts
- No incursions
- Less is more on the runes, some of them don’t add anything
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Because we aren’t getting that. We aren’t getting WoW 2 anytime soon and the rest of us would enjoy getting to continue our characters we’ve put a year into.
Seasonal WoW without exp increases will always be a failure, it doesn’t work. The experience boost wasn’t what hurt SoD, incursions did.
In fact, I know that a lot of people wouldn’t have leveled if it weren’t for the experience increase.
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Same. How many times do we need to repeat the same boring gameplay loop? I play SoD for the endgame content, leveling in vanilla is just a barrier to me.
I would however enjoy leveling in Outlands, it’s way more fun imo and less of a walking simulator.
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You’re playing the wrong game mate. Classic is all about the leveling. If you find the gameplay loop boring and you’re playing for endgame content, you’re just frustrating yourself. It’s like cutting the crusts off your PBJ and then only eating the crusts.
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“Playing the wrong game”
Who are you to tell anyone how they enjoy a video game? Retail is my main game and always will be but sometimes I enjoy how laid back and simple older versions of the game are.
I do not enjoy leveling in WoW and haven’t for many years because I do not enjoy the tedium and time-sink gameplay. What I find enjoyable is logging in with world buffs and doing a couple raids with my guild in discord voice. Season of Discovery has made me enjoy Classic as a Retail player because the classes are more interesting as is the loot.
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I found SoD leveling to be fun as you are learning the runes, and just generally being more powerful than normal. I think in the 40s it was a bit of a slog, but otherwise it was fine. I would not enjoy just playing classic and leveling, so I don’t.