This version of AV feels like the modern one, with very little differences. I won’t be playing it any more, I just don’t like it, I was really hoping for true old school AV with the NPCs and all the stuff that made it an epic multi day fight. Please give me access back to the other beta realms so I can play my leveling chars, that at least is true vanilla experience.
It’s the first time since I got in beta that I’m actually reconsidering giving away any sub money for Classic. I was expecting a LOT from AV. I’m deceived.
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Yeah! It’s weird like we are screaming we want old AV! And they are so stuck in their old ways “you think you do…”. We do want it. We all do. It doesn’t represent everyone’s experience in Vanilla. This 1.12 AV was not around as long.
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It was around longer than 1.5 - 1.8 AV.
Abraham Lincoln has been dead longer than he was alive. Ergo, dead Lincoln is better than live Lincoln. How fun is this?
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Yeah okay maybe I should have said it’s what I preferred and it’s what I played most. That better?
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That’s a more legitimate argument than claiming that 1.12 AV didn’t last very long.
It’s disheartening to hear that AV in Classic isn’t going to be the same as the AV in Vanilla. It’s disappointing when everyone can say that they want 1 particular thing and get flatout ignored.
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Oh 1.12 AV was in vanilla. It simply was the last version before TBC, and was watered down suckage and zerging.
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That’s what I’m saying. I want to experience the OG Alterac Valley.
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Not everyone can say they want one thing though. AV was changed during vanilla because a lot of people didn’t want it.
Hard to believe that.
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WoW was changed during it’s lifespan because a lot of people didn’t want it the way it was.
Aaaaaand look where that led.
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Because people wanted the reputation and gear without having to put in the hours.
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Hard to believe what? It was most definitely changed and participation definitely went up as it was changed.
Participation != Enjoyment
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I mean at the end of the day it’s hearsay. The only way I can side with that is if there is some form of substantial evidence that claims that to be the truth.
Because from my personal experience the current AV is disliked.
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1.12 AV is not the current AV though.
And yes the current AV is largely disliked, reinforcements killed it.
I’m saying I want to experience the original AV. All I know is the AV from WotLK onward. I don’t particularly care about how other people feel about it, I want the whole Vanilla WoW package.
There were various reasons less people played the early versions of AV:
- People were still leveling
- People were still gearing up
- People were farming gold for epic mounts
- People did not understand the mechanics of the BG
- AB and WSG had brackets starting in early levels and were completed more quickly
Reasons why AV was changed from it’s intended play to a race:
- Marks of Honor made completing BGs the most efficient way to gain honor
- AB and WSG had brackets starting in early levels and were completed more quickly
Marks of Honor were put in when they began to dismantle AV to cater to the race for MoHs.
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Within an hour of the servers opening, both Horde and Alliance were at each others Generals. The Alliance wiped and the Horde won.
I don’t think one hour is long enough to be a full Alterac Valley experience.
I would like Patch 1.7 with some 1.8 changes:
- In order to keep teams in Alterac Valley more numerically balanced, players will now enter Alterac Valley on a one-for-one basis (i.e. if there are 30 players in the battleground for each side with 10 players in the Alliance queue and 2 players in the Horde queue, only two players from each team will be added, bringing the total to 32 per side).
- The minimum number of players required to start a battle in Alterac Valley has been lowered to 20 (the maximum is still 40).
- Graveyard capture points are now at different locations. The banners players must interact with in order to capture a graveyard have been distanced from each other somewhat in order to alleviate “graveyard zerging”.
- Several terrain changes were made to fix some geometry exploits.
- Iceblood Graveyard has been fortified.
- The Frostwolf Relief Hut now has appropriate guards.
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