Except when your outnumbered you usually can’t do anything about it.
Sorry? I don’t know what else to tell you…how would Blizzard fix something like this? Force faction changes?
I didn’t ask them to fix it. I don’t come onto the forums to cry to blizzard to change things. I wanted vanilla as is but apparently some people want changes and will cry to get them.
Another false statement. Horde are FULL of them today. FACT: Alliance outnumbered horde dramatically in the original Vanilla and Blizzard buffed guard spawn rate, made Zeppelin guards elite, to compensate.
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In vanilla horde got to do what alliance was just doing
Except back then it was not taken away.
It was not called an exploit.
Horde got to premade av and enjoy that benefit.
So why is it the reverse in classic?
The point is simple.
Horde have the advantage in classic that alliance enjoyed in vanilla.
Simple logic would state alliance should thus have the advantage that horde enjoyed in vanilla.
But wait. Horde just spent the past few weeks calling that an exploit and getting it nerfed.
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How on earth is it “irrelevant”? It is a spot that SHOULD be contested and cause PVP, you know, that thing that BGs are there for. The entire point of their existence.
Again, you are not just “showing up”. It is literally right in your beeline south. You make a conscious decision to stay mounted and allow her to be killed. And yeah, if the alliance and horde had the same timing such that Drek was in a direct bee-line of our march north (he isn’t) and both teams met there first, I would absolutely dismount and attempt to bounce as many of you clowns back to northern spawn points. But hey, I have this weird desire to PVP in BGs.
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Cordinate with other humans and its effectively always up.
My characters equipment is laughably wrong on that site.
It still shows me with gear I had on in November or earlier.
It’s showing me wearing no raid gear at all and I have 2/2 T2 and 4/8 T1 plus some non tier raid pieces.
And that is with it showing my last raid date on Earthfury as 1-12-2020, which is correct before I transferred.
This sort of thinking is how the original realm merges started in the first place and how retail got to its current ‘war mode’ state. This is a player made problem because people rolled the faction they were interested in not the faction they were strategic about. But it’s Bliz’s responsibility to course correct before the damage becomes such that realms need to merge due to population issues.
Is the back way to the alliance base being changed too? May as well.
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You do realize the data you are reporting isn’t totally accurate right?
And Horde do outnumber Alliance on the majority of PvP servers, going off of data from that same site.
Last seen for 60’s only
Benediction - 46%/54% Alliance/Horde
Bigglesworth - 41%/59%
Blaumeux - 40%/60%
Bloodsail Buccaneers - 70%/30% RP
Deviate Delight - 55%/45% RP
Earthfury - 57%/43%
Fairbanks 38%.62%
Faerlina - 47%/53%
Grobbulus - 50%/50% RP
Heartseeker - 74%/26%
Herod - 36%/64%
Incendius - 49%/51%
Kirtonis - 41%/59%
Kromcrush - 36%-64%
Kurinnax - 45%/55%
Rattlegore - 43%/57%
Skeram - 26%/74%
Smolderwebb - 38%/62%
Stalagg - 25%/75%
Sulfuras - 46%/54%
Thalnos - 33%/67%
Thunderfury - 39%/61%
Whiemane - 46%/54%
Look at those numbers, for the site you are quoting stats for.
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I have done the AV pre-mades, this would not work out. What they do is intentionally drop the Q. Even if you gave them a 15 min deserter for not taking it; that would simply not derail the system because they would take the 15 min break and come back to just do it again.
Here is another way to think about it… When you mass Q for AV like is done in the organized pre-mades the players all Q on signal, then AV numbers for the Q’s are posted in discord chat with instructions on what channel to switch too. Then they figure out how many of each role is in channel and determine if they’re going to take the Q or re-Q… In the group that I was part of, we only needed 15 players to win an AV in nothing flat because the people I was playing with were decent PVE’rs… They however were IMO not very good at PVP…
So far in BG’s even the R13’s that I have played with are flat garbage in PVP, and even the Horde R13’s also straight trash in PVP also…
Ironically 2 of the best players I have done battle VS were Rank… 4 or 5 and in a mix of T1 and blues; likely some OG vanilla players or Arena bracket players from days of old.
The AV number nuke will set the AV pre-mades back a bit, not sure what they will do to recover from this, but these “Blizzard” solutions while well intended are not likely to solve the real underlying issue…
That underlying issue is CRBG’s… CRBG needs to be deleted from the game, it’s a determinant to the PVP community, lowers the average players skill level destroys the community.
Ok, but your original post refers to #nochanges, where in fact we’ve completely stepped away from that now. Whether it was based solely on discord or not, there were clearly changes that was not prevalent in Vanilla wow, nor as we can see it, necessary to combat exploitation.
If grouping and lessened diminishing HK returns encourages more players to participate, then great! But once they’ve set a precedence that they are willing to make “#changes” based on the factors of encouraging people to play a certain way, then where does it stop? If they introduce Dual Spec, that would give A LOT of people a great experience too. And quite frankly, I would be all for that. But let’s be honest here… it’s #changes now.
Perhaps a more elegant solution would have been to allow groups to queue as 40. It would have been limited to your server only, but even with queue times being what they were for Horde, they could pre-made, alliance could, and it would have eliminated the queue dodging
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Sure are a lot of unsupported claims being tossed about of late.
But this would screw over anyone solo queuing because they would always be put against premades.
Sorry, MalGanis must have not gotten that memo throughout the entire span of vanilla.
Whether you got the memo or not does not mean the feature was there. Do you get all the memos every time the US Tax code changes? The features are still there.
You’re more then welcome to visit Ironforge pro.
Be sure to exclude PVE realms.
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I guess this is what happens when people can’t play well together. Now queues are going to be longer because Alliance won’t be getting their quick wins.