Alterac Valley Adjustments Incoming

says the ALLI ROFL awww no more 40 man zerg wins

So, form a WSG premade. Do you only want to join premades when it’s one sided?

Ally start queuing for WSG => shortens WSG queue for Horde (currently around 12 min)

Horde switch to WSG for shortened queue times => less Horde queue AV

Less Horde queue AV => shorter AV queue times

Only time will tell

Please also make these “adjustments” to AV:

  • Make it where a player (corpse included) has to be within 100 yards of an objective to receive bonus honor.
  • Make it where a player (corpse included) has to be within 100 yards of a Drek/Van kill to receive 3 marks of honor.
  • Set the capture timer to 3 minutes.
  • Change the recall trinket to have 5 charges, recharged on repair or joining a new AV.
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You’ll get no argument from me that they royally screwed up faction balancing due to just ignoring it. There are plenty of things they could have done from day 1. But the fact of the matter is, many if not most servers are not critically imbalanced, both factions WPVP (including griefing, camping FPs, death blobbing, etc), as is the entire point of PVP servers. By and large I believe at this point that most alliance griping about WPVP simply do not like to WPVP, and made a boneheaded decision to roll on PVP servers.

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That was just Blizzard trying to prevent all the unsubs they were getting.

The real fix remains adding faction queueing when servers get so unbalanced.

I’m not sure how the diminishing honor nerf and the longer horde queues are gonna do anything but encourage more in world camping

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And you missed the entire point. If you are interested in PvP, there are more PvP targets on horde. It is called “math” you see, since Horde players on PvP servers account for 66% of the population on whole and up to 75% of a servers population on some servers, there are more PvP targets to hit with your keybinds. But it’s okay, I wouldn’t expect a Horde “PvPer” to understand how being the underdog is advantageous if your goal is simply PvP.

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Keep being salty :salt:

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Organise more of your Alliance to WPvP. The less you guys queue the more of us get in :).

No point. Horde camp with 40+60 people at each flight path. If/when they get wiped, they bring even more numbers. That is the perk of having a massive and disgustingly imbalanced population advantage.

Nail on the head man

From,
Heartseeker Horde

Can you put out now plz…

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It’s a start. At least everything said is reasonable and some of it is, IMO, good.

I found this funny " with as few as 20 players…" I have started with 4 lol.

I like the 5 man premade with no numbers, can get in with some friends (or geared/rankers if that is your thing) but no more 30+ premades. Seems good.

AV should start feeling like a battleground again.

And no “sky is falling” stuff in that, seems like the minimal amount.

[edit: do want lowered AV honor overall or upped WSG, would be nice to get WSG into the honor equation]

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peak female undead comment from a dude irl

Does this mean you’re a gnome irl o.0

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Imagine a Horde saying that 2:1 isn’t a critical imbalance. 51/49 is a faction imbalance, 66/33 is 2:1 and that is a critical imbalance, and most servers fall in the 60/40 to 66/33 range.

Lol, I never imagined that I would be hordesplained that faction population advantages aren’t really while benefiting from the numbers.

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Not one reply to shifting to WSG. You pink skins don’t want PVP.

dont forget they play on a pve server lmao

that would break AV, for one no one would do any turn ins, in fear of not being at a spot for honor, and also everyone would jus run around as one big 40 man mob to every obj…

Also we want changes that best reflect vanilla, not changes that would create another game entirely.