Alright I admit it. I'm bored of hardcore

Yes, I understand that.

Which is why I am saying it is unrealistic for a completely new player to experience the game to its fullest.

Because that’s unrealistic. It “works” for era sure.

But I could be a tailor rn, craft 5-6 black mageweave boots and have money for my epic mount before level 40

That is an era thing.

You don’t see that on fresh servers.

Part of the fun is the early struggle gold rush.

yea i love this part but the pally was talking more about the economy more then this. I love it when i was farming for my epic mount for 6 hours doing hunter dm farms and finally getting it was amazing, sucks i cant really relive that again unless fresh comes out. Era still gives me everything else though.

Yeah totaly.

I’m not anti era and I think it’s great and wish more of my friends would log in for stuff.

But my itches are all scratched mainly by what fresh servers provide.

If the pvp was better on era I would likely play more and even rank alts

Lol the rest of the crowd wants classic+ not seasonal.

Classic plus is fresh

And you have no evidence for what the crowd wants

I happen to think classic plus, in the end, will be pure cope. Could it be fun? Yeah

But you also see anti plus threads too.

As opposed to unfactually false?

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Era allows the new player to a server to afford vendor items much more quickly since you can sell your gathered items for a decent price on the AH. My favorite, besides ores, is light feathers.

Well… you can roll on a server with no AH at all and still get this. That’s what I did with this druid I post on.

It was definitely a solo journey though, outside of one guy who chatted with me on and off. I didn’t mind doing it because it was different than I’m used to.

It’s easier to get the R11 mount on a dead server but that was so painful I just farmed the raw gold for the AV wolf. It definitely “felt better” to get it through effort than it would have had I just herb-farmed and gotten 100g a stack or something.

Anyway, I leveled this toon and wanted to give the new rank system an honest shot from R0 but that wasn’t too fun so I stopped at R12. Then I did some hardcore leveling which well… not dying has not been a problem. One guy in this guild I’m in keeps rolling new classes and can’t make it past 20. HOW? I don’t even logically know how people keep dying again and again to mobs or regular falling, but I’m sure a bug or a DC could take these toons out whenever.

Either way, I’m glad that Era is a thing that people can play whenever, and I can definitely relate to those who primarily love Era better than those who love Wrath or Retail but I keep feeling like there’s an itch I can’t scratch. Plus, one of my buddies was messing around in hardcore and said he is super excited about what’s next so that made me want to play even more with some of those old friends who said would be back again.

Ive been playing era for a long time and I still love it even though ive done almost everything. Eternal phase 6 is great and im glad it will continue

I’m glad it will continue to

But it’s not for everyone

These are two very different claims.

The game is perfectly fine being static in a never ending phase 6. The AH is inflated but it hardly impacts a regular player that wants to get to 60 then find a nice raiding guild. The fact that its static allows people to take breaks and come back without falling behind everyone.

Its been static for over three years and is still thriving even after BC and wotlk, that is a testament to its ability to persevere.

I can see the appeal for fresh seasonal server. I am glad we have Era to fall back to.

What happens when classic+ comes out

No one knows what classic+ will be, everyone has wildly different opinions so its impossible to measure.

But that is beside the point, nevering ending phase 6 is fine and not a critical design flaw that is destined for failure.

u can apologize now :slight_smile: L

I never said either.

But world of warcraft as a whole has a linear storyline. The games literal backbone is progression.

It is not an entirely pure 100% sandbox game like OSRS, however vanilla is the most sandbox version of warcraft.

Due to no further path past naxx, you have a bottleneck at the top, more or less.

now you have two types of vnilla players.

Those that like the late phase vanilla

And those that like the early phase vanilla

The former enjoy era, the latter enjoy fresh

I see no issue here, besides the anti fresh posters who dont “get it”

I take no issue with fresh, it would be great and would only strengthen era long term.

But i still disgree with this

we will agree to disagree.

Functional? yes.
Practical? opinion
realistic? no

How many 60s you have?

Fresh servers are addictive in a way that the permanent server will never be.

I leveled an Undead Warrior on Era earlier this year pretty casually. Just logged on whenever I felt like it. Didn’t log on every day. Didn’t really care that much. Took me a few months but I got there eventually. With ZG and AQ both open, the dungeon grind isn’t a necessity, so you can mostly just raid log after hitting max level and getting your attunements. (Although that’s still 6 raids per week if you hit ZG/AQ20/MC/BWL every lockout, so plenty to keep you busy, even though it’s not enough to consume your entire life.)

On Hardcore? I grinded my face off. I sacrificed sleep, I sacrificed some personal commitments, and I logged on every single day to level that HC Warrior. I didn’t even plan to raid on hardcore, but once you get in a groove on a fresh server, something about the game just compels you to keep going. I can’t explain it. Maybe it’s the competition, or the fact that you’re building relationships with people for the first time, or maybe some combination of both.

Then I died at 59 and now I’m just waiting for fresh :grinning:

If playing WoW was my entire life, I might be more committed to re-rolling on hardcore… but it’s not. I can’t go through leveling over and over and over again. It’s too addictive! My real life can’t take it!

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