Ally server hopping for bounties and crates

How is this being allowed? They are exploiting in order to farm crates and bounties it needs to be fixed.

Both factions are doing the same thing. They do it for an easy Conquest farm. Isn’t exploiting though.

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It kind of is if you server hop to kill and get crates. It’s not the intended use of server hopping.

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  1. “kind of” =/= is
  2. server hopping, or shard hopping, is definitely not even shady, let alone an exploit or even close to it.

Imagine you’re in a big guild. You’re out in wpvp and that’s all you do, someone in guild chat says “hey I’m on isle of dorn and there’s a group with 2 bounties can anyone help?” But you don’t see them even though you’re in the same zone. By your logic if you join their group to shard over to help them then it’s kind of exploiting. Does it seem a little more clear with that example?

Do you expect people to deal with what terrible roll of shards you get? If you log into a busy PVP area that is completely dead are you exploiting by getting on an alt to be on a more populated shard so you can do what you intend / want to do?

The lines blurr VERY quickly. Please don’t contribute to the near constant claims of people exploiting, it seems like everything is an exploit to people these days. I’m not saying exploits don’t happen but damn am I tired of seeing “this is an exploit” “that is an exploit” “he exploited and broke a stun!”

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You realize that shard hopping in of itself has no official guidelines that state what is or isn’t acceptable when doing it, right? It isn’t defined as an exploit or anything, it requires you being invited to another shard by somebody else. It’s not like players are bypassing that requirement or abusing an exploit to do so.

People shard hop for all kinds of reasons, like checking for rares, finding a quieter shard to level an alt peacefully, or even finding a populated shard filled with players so they can have fun in WPvP and start killing.

None of these things are considered exploits. A group that’s shard hopping around farming crates is no different.

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Doing something not intended by the game is exploiting.

Abusing it is what is considered exploiting.

Except it is because it’s not the intended use of “shard hopping”. Blizzard even broke addons that used to do it so clearly, they don’t want it happening.
It doesn’t surprise me one bit it’s the same people that exploit in pvp that are defending this trash HAHAHA game is going to be in a better place with you guys gone.

You need to clarify what “abusing” means in this context. As I said before, there are no official guidelines from Blizzard dictating how shard hopping should be used. Blizzard has never explicitly stated, “You can’t shard hop to do X, Y, or Z.” Without that, it’s impossible to define what constitutes abuse.

Blizzard didn’t break addons specifically targeting shard hopping; they adjusted how the sharding system worked.

Previously, all you needed was an invite from a player on another server, and you’d instantly hop shards, regardless of location. Blizzard added restrictions, like requiring players to be in the same zone, which indirectly rendered those addons obsolete.

The in-game LFG tool now fulfills the same purpose.

Ironically, you should know those who exploit often know exactly what qualifies as an exploit and what doesn’t. This isn’t an exploit. :wink:

Whatever excuse you need, everyone else knows it’s scummy and not intended. Once blizzard deals with you guys the game will once again be able to grow and thrive. If not oh well the game will die.

When you say “everyone,” what you really mean is “you.” Shard hopping is an intended mechanic—Blizzard provided the LFG tool, and simply being invited to a group by a friend accomplishes the same thing. It’s not some backdoor exploit.

I only participated in crate farms when I needed Conquest for my Blood Elf DH, and I haven’t done it since. Regardless, participating in those farms isn’t an exploit. Shard hopping is functioning as Blizzard designed it, it doesn’t matter what reason they’re doing it for either.

I mean come on, it’s only two words you got to read them both buddy.

Oh sure just like all you sync exploiters are doing is “counting down”, just stop HAHA

Doing something not intended by the game is an exploit.

I mean you don’t even understand the things you say.

Also just FYI, shard hopping is just there so people join their group member. Not for people to jump from shard to shard to gank and camp crates. Hence why blizzard stopped the addons that allowed hopping between shards. But let’s not go and pretend you care what blizzard intends at all.

Huh? I don’t sync queue, and I don’t even do BGs. I actually agree with you that sync queuing in battlegrounds is an abuse of the system, but that has nothing to do with shard hopping or what we’re talking about here.

Shard hopping is intended. Blizzard specifically created the LFG tool and group systems that allow players to hop shards by joining their group members. There’s no circumvention of mechanics happening here—everything is working exactly as Blizzard designed.

As I said already, Blizzard didn’t stop the addons directly; they fundamentally changed how sharding works, which made those addons obsolete. They added restrictions, like requiring you to be in the same zone as a group member, instead of allowing you to hop shards by simply being invited to a group.

The functionality Blizzard left in place—via LFG or group invites—still allows shard hopping, so clearly, they’re fine with the mechanic existing. You’re conflating Blizzard adding restrictions to the system with them trying to stop shard hopping altogether, which isn’t the case.

Some people cannot be reasoned with. Save your efforts for someone more deserving.

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I don’t think you understand what “intended purpose” even is. It’s ok I get that it’s hard to do things the intended way like everyone else. But the excuses and lies are just pointless.

I do understand what “intended purpose” means, but shard hopping doesn’t have a defined right or wrong way to be used. Blizzard hasn’t provided any official guidelines or restrictions stating what shard hopping can or cannot be used for, so claiming there’s only one “intended way” is just incorrect.

The intended way is simply for players to group up, and that’s exactly what players are doing. Horde were forced to organize and group up because Alliance outnumbered them so heavily at crates, making it impossible to compete without grouping up.

No one here is making excuses or lying. You’re the one creating your own narrative and definitions about what constitutes an exploit. Just because you dislike something doesn’t make it an exploit, and it’s not Blizzard’s responsibility to cater to your personal preferences.

Ya this is always what you guys claim. Just stop.

Have never once said that.

I have never said that either. Once again, I’m basing my things on the information blizzard has provided. One rule is no exploiting. Exploiting is doing something not intended by the game, blizzard removed shard hopping, therefore shard hopping is not intended. It’s not rocket science.

“you guys” lol. I mostly play solo or with a guildie or two :sob:

You’re doing just that. You don’t like people server hopping and are calling it an exploit.

Like I’ve already said, and which you’ve ignored many times already:

Blizzard never removed shard hopping. They just added an extra layer of difficulty to it, you have to be in the same zone in order to shard hop.

I never said I don’t like people server hopping lol it’s wild how much you have to make up to push your narrative. But anyways it’s the abuse that’s not allowed the word you’re looking for is exploiting.

I didn’t ignore anything, there is no reason to project little buddy.

No, they removed addons that allowed people to shard hop at will because that’s not the intended use of it. Keep up buddy.

You’re complaining about people server hopping:

Even though it isn’t exploiting.

You clearly did, otherwise you would’ve known I already countered this argument twice already:

Blizzard didnt remove any addon. The changes they made to sharding made the addon obsolete. There’s literally addons still on curseforge and wowinterface on shard hopping still, they’re just redundant because LFG can do the same thing.

Incorrect.

Please learn what words mean.

You haven’t “countered” anything because you haven’t understood anything XD

They “removed” the addons by making them not work, because they didn’t want people abusing shards. Yes, blizzard has not fixed addons in a long time hence they one sync exploiters are using as well.

The title of your thread is literally “Ally server hopping for bounties and crates,” so yes, its clear youre complaining about server hopping. Argue semantics all you want by saying it’s the “abuse” or “exploitation” of shard hopping that’s the issue, fine, but the point remains the same.

Point is, people grouping up and shard hopping for bounties or crates, isn’t exploiting. Blizzard has never defined shard hopping as an exploit, nor have they outlined specific limitations on how it should be used. If there’s no bypassing of systems or glitches involved, calling it abuse or exploitation is just your personal opinion, not fact.

Let’s not play word games here. If you have an issue with shard hopping in general, say so. But don’t try to backpedal when your own words make it clear what you’re really complaining about.

Again, they didn’t specifically target the addons to “remove” them. They just changed how sharding works as a system, which made those addons obsolete. It’s not the same as breaking an exploitative addon like those used for sync queuing.

If Blizzard truly viewed shard hopping as abusive, they’d have removed it outright or added clear limitations to its functionality, like disabling it for certain activities. The fact that it’s still possible with tools Blizzard provides says otherwise.