Allied races for Worgen and undead: Nelf Worgen and San'layn

Um. Yes. Is that rhetorical?

Haha yes that make more funny his comment about San’layn being to evil for the horde…

What’s really amusing is the fact that San’layn worked FOR the Horde and helped them out. Plus the “only evil” nonsense falls flat when looking at any undead with free will. They can make their own choices and not be just evil. As seen with forsaken and DK.

Not to mention, the Tauren everyone worships also kills a ton of forsaken as well, for… Wait for it… What he sees as right. Dreven did so for survival and to finish what he was ordered to do. Apparently killing one in one scenario is just fine but not the other. Which is hypocritical and I bet you anything will be mind gamed to fit a narrative.

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as per canon lore, they have no difference, no matter what fans create with their headcanon, its showed in the worgen HQ.

fair enough.

You were the one who was being toxic to me and trolled my responses

see? work in both ways

i never attack someone, i talk about the nonsensical idea of san’layn joining the tribal and shamanistic faction of the horde, you take personally, thats not my fault.

Just like night elves worgens and sanl’ayn?

not more stupid than the idea of topic,

sure, but as fictional beings i will call then the way i want

“Never attack someone”.

This is why I don’t take you seriously, you also lie. It’s not “taking something personally”, it’s you blatantly insulting people you disagree with and pretending like you don’t.

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I didn’t

Show me where i ever insulted you, i never did that

Me saying people have a fetish on elves is not blatantly insulting people who dessagre with me

ROFL! If you can’t see why that’s a blatant insult and attack? I’m not going to bother spelling it out for you. I made my point and exposed you for your nonsense right there. You came into my thread swinging insults, and now are denying it. Hah.

I’ve rebutted all of your nonsense already, many times over. This is the last time I respond to you. But now everyone else can see your lies, and how you pretend to be perfectly innocent, when in reality you jump to insulting anyone that disagrees with you.

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You clearly don’t know your lore if you think night elf worgen are anything other than neutral/neutral good going by alignment system. They mainly did what they did because they had zero control over themselves and had a vengeful worgen leading them against Malfurion

Makes about as much sense as dryad growing legs and becoming an allied race with the keepers.

okay be illiterate then

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Like how KT wasn’t giant before Bfa, or like dark iron didn’t had lava beard and hair before? Or i could talk about void elf who did not even existed before they were added…

You know what is cool about new thing and idea? its that they are new…

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show the insults in plural, if you are so certain that i did, i will wait, by your words you have tons of exemples of me doing that.

you didn’t, thats why you are not doing this time and you going for ad hominen, attacking me, saying things about me instead.

Headcanon is not proof to rebute “my nonsenses”

They didn’t and don’t have control of themselves, this can change? yes it can

botani could change and be more open to other races? yes they can

Just to make clear, i didn’t said the idea of the topic is stupid, just bad in the current lore, you start saying things about what is stupid or not then ii turn the table.

imo, a race like night elves worgens would not be good for BfA, and another elf? even worse.

the difference is expanded lore and retcon lore

They can do, sure, but like i said, to me is pointless when they could bring something more unique

plays the victim card, ignores all of my responses which were counters to his

Aaaalllllrighty then, moving on.

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You said it, they could do, so there is no difference.

This is the only thing I’ll agree with you on.

And no they can’t; They’re driven to infest the world and they’re chaotic evil. They only exist to be terminated by both and all factions.

As listed prior /SEVERAL/ times now? Now would be the perfect time to introduce them. While they wouldn’t have any attachment to Teldrassil getting burned, they would be awoken to the fact that all of Kalimdor - THEIR HOME - is basically taken over by the Horde. Especially Ashenvale and Darkshore which became a warzone. There’s no better time to introduce them except perhaps making an entirely druidic expansion

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you did that, i came into the thread give my opinion and the next response is you attacking me playing the victim card, LUL

yes please move on.

there is difference about retcon lore and create lore

you know thats not entire true right? there are friendly Botani we talk in wod

in Drenor the life spirit was more abundant, this made the plant there more aggressive, this didn’t happen in azeroth, they would be less chaotic

without a home, they would befriend with other races to be maintain themselves

their chaotic personality would bring a burst to the alliance narrative, they helping the night elves take back ashenvale from the orcs would be awesome imo

the same way they can retcon worgen appearance they can expand botani lore

this is how i think they should be, if they ever become a thing, in the emerald dream expansion/emerald nightmare(?)

BfA is just about war and old gods, Night elves worgens don’t rly fit to it, they were already thousand of years away, even with arhcimonde in their gates, why appear now? and another elf? logistic put then in the next expansion

Hmmm no. Retcon lore is created lore… Are you just a troll are really stupid???

My dear apparently blind orc, I gave my reasoning and proof, and you flat out denied it right in front of you :slight_smile: Sorry, things don’t work that way!

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Retcon is as the name say, retroactive continuity, is the change of previously established facts not just creating new lore, but changing old lore

i would not call you names cause this would prob give me a forun vacation since everyone would report me, but if its you is fine

the one who says that i attack you now is calling me blind, sure

i tough 2 responses before were your last? if you don’t want or can’t refute my point, you don’t need to attack me and keep going

I keep responding because you keep saying the same nonsense, and I already replied to your “points” a while ago. You continue to claim I’m “attacking” you, which is pathetic, all things considered, and false. I don’t let people playing victim go, not once did I “attack” you, I brought up what you are for having lashed out at me first and anyone that disagrees with you, which once again, you denied. Seeing as you still can’t see that… /shrug

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you really don’t know your lore, I’d educate you but I don’t feel like going on a tangent when I already do this pretty daily on my other server.

it was already done, it was a raid because blizzard even said there wasnt enough to make an entire expansion out of the emerald dream

there is ONE friendly botani you talk (literally had to go look him up) During which you had to kill him TWICE and he only ever shows up on BOTH FACTIONS as a lumber minion. He also claims that we’re blood sucking parasites of the world among other things and that we’ll ‘feed the lifeblood of the world’

So in addition to this he tries to kill you twice and that’s basically the same thing you can expect from saberon at the moment; One evil botani being beaten into submission doesn’t equate to a whole race being playable. The same rule applies to Leorajh of the Sabeorn. He only became smart due a magic rock.

You are just derailing the subject of the topic with your personal beef playing the victim card for something you think happened in another thread in another forum

If you don’t want “refute” my points in the subject of the topic, its ok but keep going about me? thats not rly productive.

you are doing this here, my first comment was not about you neither towards you, but you keep talking to me, about me and other things derailing the thread.