Alliance, would you forgive the Horde?

[Roran-stormrage (Roran)]

What? Sylvanas IS the Horde government. Look at what happened to Saurfang when he disagreed: branded as a traitor and an enemy to the Horde. You all pledged to follow her as Warchief, she demanded your pledge of loyalty.

Arthas, on the other hand, was never our leader. We never pledged to follow him. He wasn’t our king, or anything like that. I’m not even sure how you made that sort of stretch.

He was the prince of Lordaeron, so we can even make the argument that the Horde take all of the fault there.

[Airc-shattered-hand (Airc)]

He was the prince of Lordaeron, so we can even make the argument that the Horde take all of the fault there.

For some reason Horde members love to blame the Alliance for things the people of Lordaeron did, as long as it’s bad. If it’s good, they take all the credit for doing it as the Forsaken are the “rightful people of Lordaeron”.

[Sinelus-moonrunner (Sinelus)]

Yes, I respect honor. Not deathbringers. That is to say - those who betrayed Sylvannas.

[Biamart-goldrinn (Biamart)]

Yeah, it would make perfect sense for him to marry a undead that can’t reproduce and make an heir.

[Fyfaesia-wyrmrest-accord (Fyfaesia)]

Would Fyfaesia the character? No. Never.

[Nobody-antonidas (Nobody)]

The only one to blame is sylvania lightbulbs, she is the bad actor and even her boyfriend didn’t want to burn the tree just showing how evil she is. It’ll be great when we kill off sylvania light bulbs.

[Fyfaesia-wyrmrest-accord (Fyfaesia)]

I don’t believe in the “great man theory” and neither does my character. Sylvanas had an army behind her. An army that followed her willingly. They know who she is. They’ve always known. A shadowy, ruthless figure who has never been trusted.

Yet they bathed in blood across Ashenvale and Darkshore. But the line is crossed when the tree catches on fire? I don’t buy it. It’s so incredibly arbitrary.

[Grayphus-nemesis (Grayphus)]

If that was honestly something the Alliance didn’t want, there would have been a punishment, but there never was.

And that repercussions Sylvannus suffered, after using the blight on Gilneas, going against orders of Garrosh, don’t use your trump card?

I will repeat!
You horde, they want him punished, Greymane prevent Sylvannus to enslave Eiyhr?

Syl must be punished before, for unauthorized use of blight, in Gilneas!

Now, saying he’s justified because of his family

No! It was an act of Justice, for all she’s done to everyone from Gilneas, with South Shore, Lean and for conspiring against the truce with the Horde, making a pact with the evil sinister Helya, which could cost dear in our efforts against the Legion!

It’s pathetic how the defenders of Muse of formaldehyde, forget that she wasn’t doing tourism in Broken Shore!

She can do anything without suffering the consequences!
it’s like this since Whrath Gate!

Well, Greymane on active duty, their evil deeds will always have the deserved punishment!

[Gyroleaf-moon-guard (Gyroleaf)]

Would I forgive the horde as a whole? Yes, for unlike some of my fellows I’ve learned to separate the horde and it’s people . . . though I wouldn’t let them off with a slap on the wrists, some punishment would need to be handed out, though nothing extreme like internment camps or enslavement. At the end of the day a unified Azeroth is stronger then an Azeroth divided.

[Duvainil-caelestrasz (Duvainil)]

Since the game needs 2 sides this point kind of mute.

But playing along…it be based on RP. This char’s RP, I don’t care one way or the other. I am not even sure why we are here.

They let us take Sylvanas’ and Nathanos’ head for being idiots of the highest order, we give a nice “if you mess up like this again we will be back” kind of speech to whoever takes over. And my DH would be happy to just go back to be an emo edgelord.

Tell my peeps to find me a demon planet to have fun on and blow of some steam and forget this ever happened really.

[Fredrik-thrall]

Provided they give us Sylvie and Nathan as reparations, we can go back to being friends who farm mats for the AH and kill Old Gods and void lords for tmogs.

[Vexander-moon-guard]

I won’t forgive the alliance. Attacking us without provocation when we were supposed to have a truce and trying to fend off the burning legion. Blaming us for their kings death. That dog Genn needs to be put down. His aggression led to this and now he is pushing Anduin to war.

In this case I won’t forgive the Horde. Attacking us without provocation in Ashran when we were supposed to have a treaty of peace, and we were seeking relics.

[anon69820925]

“NO! Never! I could never forgive these crimes!”

Devs write in a mandatory quest line with cutscenes that show you offering peace and forgiving all

“WAIT NO! I most certainly DO NOT!”

Cutscene - And I really mean that from the bottom of my heart. The Horde is forgiven. Now let’s hold a feast!

[Arkimus-hyjal (Arkimus)]

The whole war is idiotic. There should be nothing to forgive from either side.

[anon629088]

So today I unlocked my void elf ,Lightforged Draenei and dark iron dwarves allied races .i declare war on horde

[Boogyman-dentarg]

If the alliance refused to fight and layed down their weapons, there would be no honor in killing an unarmed foe. We may not forgive them, but we wouldn’t have to fight them.

[Ithallaine-whisperwind]

Burn them, BURN THEM!!!

[Jackhamill-tichondrius]

Alliance does not need to forgive us. Because we do not want to stop doing bad things.
For the Horde! For the Sylvanas!

[Tannaril-area-52 (Tannaril)]

But aside form that, Arthas’ men followed him all the way to Northern, and, if he hadn’t killed them, would have followed him further. If you want to blame the Horde for turning out evil leaders, you have to give Arthas to the Alliance.

So, Arthas’ men, the people of Lordaeron, who are now the Forsaken, are somehow now Stormwind and the Alliance’s issue? I don’t quite follow.

Only because you have switched points to “the general blame games”. The question had been why does the Horde keep producing such evil leaders. In fact, the evil of all has been from the Alliance.

[Karaski-moon-guard]

It’s amazing how you keep posting while utterly ignoring the point.

It’s not about justice, good, evil- but I’ll break it down so even you can understand.

There was a peace treaty, the Alliance broke it- therefore, we started this war.