To be fair even your racial leader could care less about you, you are a Goblin.
Because you are the aggressors 99% of the time. There would also be no Alliance if there was no Horde.
I still say this., Some people views on things are so distorted it weird. Someday love to see how they think. It makes a very interesting read. This thread has ton potential if a few things get cleared up. I can see it going for months if that could be done.
Here an example Glen son dies to do to an arrow when he jumps in front of it. Now here how some people portray it. He died because of sylvania use blight. Here how it really happens, one order to attack the city and take it. When she did not want to waste forsaken, she showed him how blight works. This ending stands off. Which lead to her entering the city to kill Glen. Which lead to his son died. Which lead to him getting revenge as an alliance fraction leader and second in command on sylvania.
I use this just one. some players are a confusing book and in-game lore. At times they opposite and merge them together. It really makes my head spin when I read them. It is better if they look at least at that make adjustments. Makes it easier to follow. As this not only one. there about 38 completely wrong or twisted facts going in this thread.
As long as we get to kill Sylvanas and/or Saurfang who were the ones that got us into this mess in the first place, then sure, whatever.
(we both know both factions have plot armor so even if someone wins then everything needs to be swept under the rug next expac)
Donāt worry. When the boy king marries Calia, you will get your chance.
You seem to be forgetting something
It certainly wasnāt my choice to forgive the Horde back in MoP.
and it wont be our choice to forgive them in bfa, but we all know all the blame will be placed on sylvanas and when she is taken care of the horde will be forgiven and status quo returns
What? Sylvanas IS the Horde government. Look at what happened to Saurfang when he disagreed: branded as a traitor and an enemy to the Horde. You all pledged to follow her as Warchief, she demanded your pledge of loyalty.
Arthas, on the other hand, was never our leader. We never pledged to follow him. He wasnāt our king, or anything like that. Iām not even sure how you made that sort of stretch.
Fool me onceā¦
What if I donāt want the Allianceās forgiveness? I didnāt join the best faction to kowtow to my inferiors.
The best faction is yet to come in future .
Is it cats?
No silly willy .
I agree with ya. I find this story so stupid and poorly done. As a few others said above, so much could have been averted if we used COMMUNICATION.
Sylvanas having a sudden onset of laryngitis at Broken Shore. She can trade barbs with Varian from a pretty good distance over the din of battle, but the moment itās time to cut and run. She uses a horn and suddenly forgets how to form words.
Right after Volājinās death. Horde leaders say they have to let the Alliance know what happened. Maybe the notice got lost in the mail and we should open a ticket.
So we have those two instances along with fearless leader Sylvanas doing everything but be an actual leader. Makes a deal with Helya, WHICH WE ALL SAW, and tries to enslave an ally. Seriously, what DID she do in Legion other than yell to grab towers?
As leaders of our own class halls we interacted with ALL manner of people. Sorry Blizz, but my suspension of disbelief doesnāt cover ignoring any of the above.
I would conspire with the trolls, Tauren and normal Draenei to overthrow the shoed ones.
Iāll give you that the villain bat that Blizzard has taken to the Horde has changed things and yes, we have been make the villains (thanks Bliz, that is so much fun).
But aside form that, Arthasā men followed him all the way to Northern, and, if he hadnāt killed them, would have followed him further. If you want to blame the Horde for turning out evil leaders, you have to give Arthas to the Alliance.
Just wrote the story into a corner then. Because they arenāt going to dismantle the Horde. So I guess the Alliance does not win.
It was doomed to be written into the corner from the very beginning, because itās a conflict between two player factions, in a two-faction game, wherein both factions have to exist after the conflict regardless of the outcome. There is no winning, because no one can actually lose.
But aside form that, Arthasā men followed him all the way to Northern, and, if he hadnāt killed them, would have followed him further. If you want to blame the Horde for turning out evil leaders, you have to give Arthas to the Alliance.
So, Arthasā men, the people of Lordaeron, who are now the Forsaken, are somehow now Stormwind and the Allianceās issue? I donāt quite follow.