Alliance, would you forgive the Horde?

False. There may come a point where you SHOULD forgive someone; but there is no point that you may reach where you MUST forgive someone. There are some – not a lot, not many, but some – good reasons for holding a grudge. If for nothing else, as a reminder of just how evil and/or worthless someone else (or the other faction) might be so you don’t get smacked twice by the same entity.

We’re talking WAR here, not a botched tennis match.

To Alliance players, ask yourselves, if it was you would you want Horde forgiveness?

It doesn’t mean anything. At this point the only thing that matters is winning the war. I don’t believe in good or evil, I believe in actions and their ramifications. Any sin no matter how bad eventually gets forgiven with enough time, washed away by an indiscriminate deluge. Do I care that the Horde burnt down your tree? I would have cared before it happened, now I don’t. If the Horde eradicated the Alliance, every last one of them, then who would be around to complain about atrocities?

The solution to war is escalation, not de-escalation. No, there’s no going back from what the two factions have done, and the only solution is a complete and final victory.

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If the Alliance wins the war, I think war reparations is called for to repair the damage that has done to night elf homeland and economic sanctions against most of the forsaken race.

If the horde win the war, I think they will either be all turn into forsaken, killed, or become slaves.

I think both horde and alliance will lose this expansion and there will be a third faction born .

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All hail N’Zoth! :cow:

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The purpose of war is to shape the peace which follows. No matter how much hate you feel, no matter how justified it is, at some point you have to draw a line in history and focus on what’s next, not what’s done.

If the Horde actually asked for forgiveness and their Warchief made a heartfelt apology for all the atrocities they’ve committed (willingly and unwillingly -{debatable}) since Warcraft 1 up until now.

But, is that ever going to happen? Not Likely.

The Horde needs to learn some humility; I don’t think even Thrall ever apologized for the crimes against sentience that the Horde were guilty of.

That was my guess as well, but instead, I think there should be a bunch of different factions. This is a messy war and the results should equally be messy.

If Thrall couldn’t change my mind, how is Saurfang going to?

#GarithosDidNothingWrong

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So you’re just going to keep ignoring that deal Sylvanas made with Helya and trying to enslave Eyir? :ok_hand: Since it’s being ignored, what Genn did should be ignored as well. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I don’t want their forgiveness. Only their blood under my feet.

No; that is ABSOLUTELY wrong. That’s a touchy-feely feel-good description. The purpose of war is to kill the enemy, destroy his infrastructure, and take away the ability and will to continue to wage war.

What comes AFTER that is up to the diplomats, not the military. Shaping the peace comes AFTER the enemy has been defeated, after the war is over.

Then you will never know peace.

As history has shown. Wars will never end so long as one person can stand up and say “I want more” and is able to assemble the means to go get it by any and every way possible. As long as that sentence exists in any language, there will always be conflict to some degree or another. All we can do is be prepared to face it and overcome it by any and every way necessary.

Failure to prepare and be willing to do what’s necessary only guarantees that WE will lose the next war.

This player of the horde, dressed as an alliance player, will not see anything other than something that makes the Alliance responsible for a war that began with Sylvannas’s thirst for power by azerite

Syl vannas does not even use what happened in Stronhiem as justification

She only quotes the hypothesis that with Genn with Anduin’s advisor, it’s only a matter of time before the war begins again, but she never talks about trying a diplomatic means of changing that, when everyone knows that Anduin is more inclined to end the hostilities of than any other Alliance leader, except for Velen

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That isn’t the same Horde throughout. Also, what about the bad things the Alliance are doing? We’re at war, so generally certain things which normally are considered immoral are now the standard.

Regardless of Genn striking first, someone would have to stop Sylvanas from screwing over Odyn.

Regardless of Legion, there was a period of peace/cold war, before the Horde decided to invade the Night Elves.

Regardless of their motivations, burning a city of non-combatants escalated the conflict into a world war.

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Alliance won’t have a choice. Just like Horde doesn’t have a choice now.

Except both factions have been making incursions into the others territory for all of WoW.

Does bear form count as not a shoed one?