I guess I don’t see this as wishing bad things on others so much as I think it’s cool that the Alliance, outnumbered, outgunned and ignored on all other fronts, found a warmode they could game. To me, this feels like both the Alliance figuring out how they can participate and doing so in a way that rubs Blizzard’s failure in their noses.
Here’s the difference. You can find me rude, condescending, whatever; I don’t mind and I never have. But you still make “jokes” about inflicting violence on people and, even though I think that’s horrifying, I haven’t said anything.
All right, I owe you an apology here because I can’t find the posts and I want to own up to what I said.
I am sorry, Borgg, for the implication that I made.
I do recall a few posts made about wanting to kill humans and, while I think that they were made mostly tongue-in-cheek, they still make me tense up (like I got tense here) and put me on edge. Which I guess is what I was trying (extremely ineloquently) to get at.
Yeah, it does stink that the Horde are getting a raw deal on this. But it also stinks that the Alliance are getting a raw deal on a lot of other fronts. And I do let my own perspective get in the way of my argument when I say that, by looking at the bigger picture, we can see a viable solution in a mindset that drastically downplays Horde importance in the overall narrative.
So, again, I’m sorry. You didn’t deserve that and it was a wrongheaded argument.
Come on now. There is no way you can take a post where Borgg says he’s gonna kill humans and Alliance CHARACTERS in a video game so seriously that its “horrifying.”
I say kill all humans all the time because my orc warrior on this RP server has valid RP reasons to feel that way. I know orcs have a bad rep but I feel like anyone familiar with me knows me better than that, or even that my character doesn’t joke about death. It’s his job. I joke about him, but he takes it seriously.
But I have always tried to treat people here in this community that I love with respect, even in disagreements, regardless of their toons. And I guess what frustrates me the most is if someone flat out told me that I was speaking to them disrespectfully, I would examine my behavior as to why. Everyone’s feelings are valid and sometimes when you talk to people it comes across as very demeaning. especially when they weren’t looking for an argument. And it frustrates me when I tell you those things and instead of hearing me as a person- a irl human- you brush it off as me overreacting, which is seriously invalidating and beyond aggravating. I never said my feelings are more important than anyone else’s. But at the same time they are just as valid as anyone’s and having them so easily disregarded is what pissed me off in the first place.
I agree that Alli get screwed on a lot. But that wasn’t what I was trying to get at here.
I appreciate your apology and I am also sorry for letting myself get riled up. I don’t enjoy fighting on the forums and when I get angry or feel attacked I get really sassy. I don’t dislike you Enekie. I agree with you on more than you might realize. I just dislike how you speak down to people sometimes.
And I get that, too. I just see Alliance players getting their concerns and problems swept away and how often the Horde’s problems and stories are centered and it’s hard not to pushback in ways that aren’t always helpful.
Like, I genuinely do see the Alliance gaming this shard as something laudable, primarily for the fact that it shows what a huge problem this is and I guess I leapt too quickly to the “Horde are invalidating the Alliance again” defense, which I did not respond helpfully to.
The WM system as a whole is a mess. My only point was that here on our shard, Alli have it made and it makes it annoying for Horde. That doesn’t invalidate the other problems that are going on with imbalance, of which there are many. But I wasn’t trying to speak on that is all.
I am glad we are able to speak amicably about this and it means a lot to feel heard. Thank you.
I also hope you know that even though we have gone back and forth before that I would never wish ill on you as a person. We have our disagreements but I wouldn’t stand for anyone to suffer abuse if I could help it, even if they did happen to be a Night Elf detective.
I would never want to make anyone feel threatened. OoC anyway.