This is the fate that the Horde* deserves.
*Just the Wyrmrest Accord Horde.
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As the op, this was meant to be tongue in cheek. I probably PvP as much, if not more, than everyone else in the thread so its not an actual complaint.
Warmode sucks, Blizz did a horrible job with it and each attempt to make it better made it worseā¦as is Blizzardās way (iE; Ashran in WoD). Alliance roam in packs on this shard, mainly due to Moon Guard players, from my personal experience, zerging tither and fro. The system lets them do it so they do. Cāest la vie.
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I guess what genuinely baffles me about this is that the whole of the Hordeās problems are basically solved by demanding better treatment for the Alliance.
Tired of lopsided Warmode? Demand better racials and rewards for the Alliance so theyāre interested in fighting.
Tired of being the cartoon villain? Demand better stories and more depth for the Alliance so itās not so skewed.
Tired of being criticized by the Alliance? Demand better content for the Alliance so they can go back to complaining about something else.
I get that the Horde has a stronger identity, but at this point, basically their only way out is through supporting the Alliance. Which, I guess, is the true lesson of BfA.
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I mean, I enjoy arguing, Iām pro-underdog, I like challenging flawed logic. I guess the various vendettas are kind of tiring, but I got those when I wasnāt as outspoken as I am now. So I might as well keep doing things I like.
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This should be the question Horde players are unironically asking themselves. Why participate in broken systems? Why be satisfied with bad stories? Why not be active and outspoken in protest?
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Hilarious, considering you apparently want the whole of Wyrmrest Accord Horde to apologize for warmode imbalance on servers we donāt play on.
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Nah, I donāt want an apology. But hey, if youāre going to argue that things are unfair, letās consider the bigger picture. And if a faction that, by and large, gets more attention and enjoyed an advantage that has been nullified starts complaining, you can probably expect pushback.
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Sorry but personally Iām not concerned with servers that I donāt play on.
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Thatās fine?
Every time I hear Alliance players talk about the Horde I flash back to Jan Brady lamenting āMarcia, Marcia, Marciaā¦ā
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Itās weird that the part of the Horde that likes teasing doesnāt like being teased.
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FFS literally all I did was point out the way WM is on our shard and how it frustrates me personally. I wasnāt āimploringā anything of anyone, I wasnāt asking for a pity party, I wasnāt trying to go on a gdamn crusade about fairness, and my logic is not āflawedā just because you disagree with it.
WM on our shard sucks. Alli get the benefits and the numbers. It is what it is, but itās annoying. Horde might have other things going for it in other places, but that is still a fact, and me finding it aggravating is a valid opinion. It isnāt on me to go on a holy crusade against Horde favoritism just to back that up, and I especially donāt like people putting gdamn words in my mouth or trying to take things to another level just because they canāt simply accept that we have different thoughts on the subject.
You donāt have to see eye to eye about it but the way you try to invalidate other peopleās experiences and their feelings about them is beyond condescending.
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Thereās nothing wrong with having different thoughts. But weāre probably going to argue about it and thereās nothing wrong with that, either.
I mean, I guess? But a lot of Horde players donāt really seem to care about Alliance feelings, either. The WarMode bonuses exist specifically because no one cared about the Allianceās feelings, so they stopped playing. Now theyāve found an advantage. You can be hurt over that if you want, but it exists for a reason, and all Iām asking you to do is turn your frustration toward the proper target.
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Do you mean that the bonuses are the advantage or that playing in the one skewed shard is the advantage?
Iām not hurt over fking WM. I am pissed off at how you fking talk to me. I donāt speak on other peopleās opinions bc I can only attest to mine. My only frustration is with Blizzard.
You know what, forget it. Nothing anyone says ever gets through to you unless you already agree with it. You might like arguing but you never seem to understand that mostly you just come across as a bully.
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Donāt you know that the Alliance canāt be the bullies.
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I mean, I get irritated at the boasts about PvP supremacy in a rigged game, the ājokingā threats about killing Alliance players, the toxic mindsetābut I donāt get to complain about those because itās unfair when I criticize the whole of the Horde, apparently.
So if itās unfair if I criticize individuals and itās unfair if I criticize mindsets, whatās left?
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You do that a lot too. You try to validate shtty behavior with āwell other people have been shtty too.ā Other people being dicks doesnāt make it ok to do it back and I donāt believe in wishing bad things on others just because I got the short end in another matter. Itās never cool.
And this has nothing to do with you criticizing the Horde. Youāre not a martyr here. This has everything to do specifically with YOUR actions. Get off the gdamn cross for once.
You can have the last word. Like I said nothing I say will change anything because weāve been here too many times before and itās always the same.
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Thereās a big difference between teasing about imaginary factions in an imaginary game
and you, talking down to people and insulting the players, not the characters
I honestly canāt tell if you actually mean to sound as rude and off-putting as you come off, or if youāre just that incredibly tone-deaf and unable to connect with people on an emotional level
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Sharding and phasing is just a mess, I donāt know if Blizz has made any improvements since I last played but the problems I experienced was getting pushed around into shards that was in favor of one faction over the other. Sometimes in my benefit and sometimes not.
One specific example that showed how flawed sharding is but an Alliance raid is camping the warmode dailies. OK so we form our own raid so PVP can happen but our raid gets pushed into a new shard with no Alliance raid?? OK so I guess since thereās no PVP Iāll drop group since I canāt complete my dailies in a raid except I get moved back into the shard with the Alliance raid and die.
Essentially what happened is the Horde counter raid was in one shard and the Alliance raid in another shard looking for each other but instead theyāre trapped in parallel dimensions and PVP didnāt happen lmao 
Sure we could have tried avoid forming a raid with off-server folks so we donāt change shards but then thatād leave us with like maybe 6-8 WRA players against a 40 man raid made up of off server randos.
I echo what Bullis said but I look forever to Classic and not having awful sharding.
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