i have become aware of 2 alliance premade groups that somehow circumvent the 5 man limit que and get 20-25 people all in voice into the same AV vs randoms on horde side. they are Stormpike Militia and Clan Battlehammer(an all dwarf role play guild
how is this possible? they even dont play objectives and just sit at a choke point dragging out games to over an hour. and how is this fair? this is disgusting behavior and should not be allowed. blizzard pls do something
^ This is the right answer to the OPâs question(s).
I played with several Horde premades over the summer (including Hydra etc). I only rolled with 1 Alliance premade, but they worked the same way as the Horde premades. The whole âpremadeâ thing is coordinated entirely on Discord⌠with a raid leader, team leaders, etc.
Even on alliance side? I have seen both ally groups now in AV, and I think their success still depends on us soloâers knowing strat ourselves and supporting their lead. I do not believe they win it âon their own as a premadeâ unless they were like 35+. Not sure how it works on horde side, because horde side is easier.
Alliance premades work the same way dude, usually itâs 20-25 premaders and 15 PUG randoms. The PUGs generally follow the herd, so itâs easy to lead them or get them to go where you need them.
Youâd be surprised the impact 20-25 organized players can have on the outcome of a 40-man bg. I think I only lost 2 epic bgs all summer whenever I rolled with a premade. The win-rate with a premade is stupidly high⌠wouldnât surprise me if itâs 90% or more
I might be wrong but when Iâve seen Clan and SPM Iâm not sure their numbers were 25+. But in the games Iâve been in they seem to choose to play strong defense at first, and there are still randoms running around not listening, especially at the start. Defense as alliance is much more difficult due to the porous trapezoid of SHB to SHGY to IWB to SF, in addition to needing to defend our DB base against horde that can more easily slip through the âSH chokeâ (lol).
Whatever the case, in AV nowadays a horde premade vs. ally premade should be no real contest unless the horde premade is super bad.
Oh and Gdtroll, I donât disagree with the 2nd paragraph. Premade (with enough numbers) vs. unorganized - yeah, no good reason for the premade to lose.
Our numbers vary a lot. On good days weâll get 25 players, which usually leads us to raid cities, but like tuesday we sometimes only get 15. In which out of the 15, 2 drop due to connection issues (always the same ones too )and the other 5 are sitting north to back cap and ensure a pvp match in AV. Really we win because the King leads the pugs, which is difficult sometimes.
Pretty sure this multiple 5 mans just happened in EOTS. 10 from Tich on horde side. Looked like 5 from one guild, 3 from another and 2 from another. Either that⌠or it was blind luck âŚ