Delusional because you said so? You got nothing to back that up because it’s something that was not an option. We’re all speculating, but pointing out that horde players did, in fact, ask for faction changes is undeniable.
Not now. Players who were considering a faction swap if it were to become available have been given a good reason not to with the beta testing of HvH bgs.
That’s a very jaded view, one you are certainly entitled to believe, but there are players who want a healthier faction balance and this change is not going to help that in any way.
If this is true it going to be hilarious when Alliance start vote kicking mercs out of BG groups and send Horde running back to the forums asking for even more changes.
“Compared to being smug because the game was worse for Horde?” Worse for the horde? That’s why all the minmaxers (majority) are on horde side… You people ruined your own fun and now you guys want everyone else to eat the pile of shh you left in your wake. Make your bed, sleep in it.
At which point did I bring up racials? Not worth my time to even address all your stupidity you typed out. So much condensed in to one post. You must be an idiot.
There is no reason to believe that free faction transfers would move enough Horde over to the Alliance to solve the problem. Best guess estimates put the population disparity at around 60/40. And that’s not specifically the BG queue, that’s total population. There are other factors that impact queue times such as time of day and active players, so the queue times fluctuate and change based on factors not explicitly related to the total horde vs alliance population.
Faction changes are a voluntary process. There are a multitude of factors that would impact a player’s decision to change. Their desire to keep their current player group and community is in direct conflict with a faction change, so just throwing out a free faction change option in itself is not going to generate movement.
Time is a factor here too. How long do you think it would take for enough Horde to transfer to the Alliance? A month? Two? Five? We would be waiting for a VERY long time for the change to take place. How many Alliance are currently done with the honor grind? How many more will be done by the time all Horde that will faction change have faction changed? That means less and less Alliance in the queue system EVEN IF the population becomes balanced, and that means the high queues remain because of the honor disparity.
Future-proofing. Offering free faction changes now is a bandaid. There’s basically no expectation that it will solve the issue, and even if it DOES it will not do ANYTHING for future issues. What if a bunch of Horde just quit? Or people stop queueing for BGs? Or the Alliance gets a player surge? What if Alliance players quit again in the future? Any future demographic change would create the problem all over again, and it’s not like TBC Classic is going to get a ton of new players feeding the system.
Ok? But how many players would have considered it? Enough to resolve the queue times?
I believe that because I’ve pointed out the flaws in the free faction change argument and NOT ONE of the Alliance claiming it as a solution bother to address them.
Let me be PERFECTLY clear. I do not have any issue with them implementing free faction transfers in TBC Classic. In fact, I think using it as a targeted choice on select PVP servers may be beneficial to some. Offering Horde to Alliance transfers on Horde dominated PVP servers, and Alliance to Horde on Alliance ones with a significant margin in their favor (Anything over 60% one faction). But not as a solution to the queue times issue, and not as a contingent for it either.
The Alliance playerbase is being extremely unreasonable and overly reactionary in this instance, and I don’t care to entertain people that can’t separate their emotional responses from objective reasoning in issues like these.
You want players to debate something that did not happen. You’re speculating and in exchange, you want us to offer up more speculation to refute it?
Faction changing probably wouldn’t be the quick fix HvH bgs is, but it addesses more than one issue too.
Alliance PvP server population has taken a pretty big hit since the end of classic era and you’re calling players who see that as a cause of concern selfish when all you really care about is horde queue times?
I would of suggested you develop common sense and roll the faction that wasn’t known to already be extremely overpopulated but hey have fun destroying the game so you can play your favorite faction!
You’re delusional lol. Horde win almost ever bg because of the Q times. They are more tryhand and therefore win. Over the weekend as alli I won WAY more. Because the horde would shamefully roll over like alli do if they lose the 1st encounter. As an alli player I encourage this change because it means we can finally win pug v pug games. Ya we have to deal with premade more often now but that is a small price to pay for the horde becoming spineless like alliance
He didn’t say if there was going to be a vote kick system. Or is that baked into a merc mode on retail? I haven’t pvp’d on retail since legion and never had to do it (cause ally lol).
Alliance had merc mode throughout WoD. I tried it, didn’t like it so I leveled a horde priest instead. Report afk/cheating is still an option even with mercs in your bg.
Imagine saying alliance are gate keeping horde, when the highest rated arena teams are mostly horde.
Guess that is just a get better issue?
Regardless, horde do deserve instant ques. But saying that you can’t compete because of gear in TBC atm is silly. Look at the ladder. You horde are playing yourself saying that.
Literally EVERYTHING is speculation. You have to provide a reasoning why your speculative change is worth considering and would potentially solve the problem. Which you refuse to do.
No, it wouldn’t be A FIX period. And the point of this change isn’t to change your other perceived issues. It’s to address the queue times. Like I said, free faction changes should not be tied to queue times or be a contingent on the change. It’s not a zero sum situation. In fact, BOTH solutions can exist. I even pointed that out. Would you agree with seeing both same faction BGs and faction change being offered?
It’s not taken a hit. It’s that Horde population has grown in a way that outpaces Alliance growth. There are more players playing now than in Classic, and the population totals of both factions has increased. But Horde has increased more than Alliance. I think PVP faction imbalance can certainly be an issue, but at the same time the risk of being on a PVP server is that there will be faction imblaance.
It’s telling to me that the Alliance only talk about faction imbalance on PVP servers that relate to the Horde advantage, but there’s no talk about the Alliance dominated servers (which do exist, but in a smaller number). So it seems to me the Alliance only frame the issue in a way that impacts them when PVP server faction imbalance is localized to the server itself, and impacts both factions depending on server.
I already told you guys my friend at Blizz who works on Overwatch told me they just porting over the retail system to Classic because of all the QQ by Horde and Alliance.