Vykrul would help. You have to actually give a race the Horde will be jealous of
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The amount of people that play each race speaks to how much effort people perceive to be put into each of them. Itâs not a contest.
Unless you legitimately think the 7 earrings and 7 necklaces Kul Tiran females have are comparable to the 3 Tattoo sets, Ear Gauges, 7 Earrings, 6 Tusk Customizations, 7 Necklaces, and outright less bugged skeletal rigging on launch was somehow less effort. Who cares if it was a new skeleton when it didnât even work properly on launch and the race ended up looking like a depressed mannequin, or in the Male Kul Tiranâs case, a Strongman if he forgot leg day.
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They could release high elves and itâs not going to save Alliance.
The only thing that they can do is enable cross-faction play.
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As it already have been said, using those number isnât saying anything:
Plus, as it also have been said:
Zandalari being popular doesnât have anything to how better they are. If anything, blood elf and zandalari popularity is just a indication of how awefull the race choice was on the horde with all our weird modelâŚ
Ok so having way more customisation doesnât help the mechagnome against the vulpera since vulpera is a new race but having more customisation is so much important when it for the zandalari vs the new model of KT???
A freaking new model against a few tusk and tattoo option and somehow the tusk and tattoo is more???
I get it, you are the kind of person who always change the metric of what make something good just to push your horde bias agendaâŚ
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Void Elves beating Draenei in popularity is just depressing.
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I am not even sure where those number come from. DI being so low and NB so high just make no sense.
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Void Elves were projected to beat Draenei in popularity for awhileâŚand that was even before the fair skintones. Dark Iron being unpopular isnât surprising because theyâre Dwarves. Dwarves in generally havenât been popular.
Nightborne being high is surprising though. They were pretty low for awhile but maybe removing the unlock restrictions helped with their popularity growth.
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Well void were meant to be popular just for being thalassian elf. But DI being this low is kind of surprising considering that they are not only like within the alliance playerbase but also within the horde playerbase.
Yeah maybe. I havenât play since a while so maybe the new customisation also helped them but otherwise, i barely saw anyone playing them beforeâŚ
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Iâm literally just citing hard numbers and things that are perceptible to make a point. Itâs what normal people call making an argument.
With the stats you posted, corrected for Faction Balance, Zandalari still have double the representation which still makes my point still hold water. Thereafter, everything you quoted was pretty much just reasons Zandalari are better than Kul Tiran. I donât really know how that reinforces your point at all. You just admitted that Zandalari are well-designed (perhaps even better than most of the Horde races). I donât know how that doesnât speak to effort and quality.
And Iâd say Vulpera had more effort put into them than Mechagnomes, same as I think Zandalari had more effort put into them than Kul Tirans. Why? Because unlike Mechagnomes and Kul Tiran - Zandalari and Vulpera actually look really, really good and they look good enough for people to want to play them. Which once again, even using the adjusted graph you linked still makes Vulpera and Zandalari twice as popular as Kul Tiran and Mechagnomes.
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Theyâre as popular as Magâhar which is essentially the same thing.
Weâll probably see more due to the customization updates yee. Theyâll be as popular as LFD though. Nothing competes against the humans with pointy ears.
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God, gross. Why
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Its isnât being ââwell designedââ when it just fill a something that a faction lacked for to long. Horde needed a normal model while the alliance lacked of big bulky race. Zandalari wouldnât be so popular if blizzard could stop doing gear base on the human model⌠Zandalari would also not be as popular if forsaken and darkspear troll were already straight backâŚ
Zandarali popularity is just base on how awefull many horde race are. That doesnât make them better.
Its use to be because of being the only pretty horde race, while also being the only horde paladin and the only straight horde race. With more paladin race, more straight back race and a other pretty elf race, i would say that the amount of alliance player playing horde for raiding most be a big reason now.
Which is why your opinion is discussing. Mechagnome have so much more option than vulpera. By your own standard, mechagnome would have got more effort being put in them.
LOOKING GOOD DOESNâT EQUAL EFFORT!!!
If you canât gasp something as simple as this, you should just stop arguing.
God, youâre condescending.
It has been said in this thread already the quality checks on Mechagnomes were substantially lower than for Vulpera. My argument isnât just about customization quantity - itâs about (even with your adjusted for faction balance stats), the fact that the Vulpera and Zandalari still have double the representation of the Alliance allied races they released alongside.
It honestly feels like youâre only half reading what Iâm saying, so really, itâs not worth continuing.
(I was also prompted by a friend to ask if English your first language or not since the âhalf readingâ comment could come off as insensitive if itâs not. So this is me asking. )
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Yeah that why:
That why basically your argument as for why zandalari had more effort put on them than the new model of the KTâŚ
OK hear me out again: LOOKING GOOD DOESNâT EQUAL EFFORT!!!.
Being popular =/= time or effort or work or whatever. You whole argument is just meaningless when we think about void elf who are super popular put no one can seriously say that they had that much work being put into them.
Well no english isnât my first language but i donât think feel like haft reading is the problem here more than we donât seem to have the same definition of what we mean by ââhaving detail put onââ.
If by that you meant that they create something that player wanted more on the zandalari or the vulpera than it can make sense.
But if you are really talking about effort than i canât agree. Choosing to go with the vulpera vs mechagnome and the zandalari vs KT human is where the difference was made. But after that, the conception and the implementation of the KT was actually more work and the mechagnome wasnât that much easier with all their customisation and how they had to make the gear work with their robot part.
The decision of the race match up is were the problem was, not the race creation.
If they had went the void elf route and gave Horde the DI it would have been the death knell for the Alliance
20% blood elf = horde.
Adding the pretty rare to the horde is why people flocked over to it.
This is what I meant by half reading, because this was only one piece of the argument that youâve chosen to focus on.
Even aside from the details and individual customizations, I maintained that they also willfully released the Kul Tiran females with a completely bugged dance and skeleton. Iâm equating a lack of quality assurance with a lower level of effort, even if it took them more time. But thatâs alongside things like Vulpera and Zandalari being generally more desirable races, and Alliance lacking any real equivalent, as well as the the actual end products for Alliance not being up to par with what else was released.
I think even if Mechagnomes didnât have to be compared with Vulpera theyâre still not up to par. But I think weâre finally on the same page. Iâm pretty sure weâll still disagree in most facets but thatâs honestly fine.
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New Alliance. The Alliance high elves were a part of, was with us. When we were alive, before we were wiped out by the same force that nearly took them out too. They re-joined us already.
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I kind of remember zandalari also having a few problem including their new druid form.
While zandalari doesnât really have a alliance counter part, the difference between them and the KT is comparable with VE and NB. Both have as much work being put on but the difference between how much people would play one is even bigger.
Yes and iâm gonna have to thank you for trying to be understanding to people not having english as first language. Always more fun to hear than ââ LURN TO SPEAK ENGLISH!!!ââ.
All that being said, its not like i donât want both Mechagnome and KT human to improve.
Mechagnome just need more customisation and the option to customise every part separately.
KT need two thing. Skinny model and paladin. Skinny model is need because it would make KT caster being more appealing. Paladin is needed because the current model is awesome for big tanky plate gear so paladin would because the best class for the big model with the warrior and DK.
That would still not make them as popular for many reason mention above, but that would at least make them way more appealing.
As for the vulpera vs mechagnome mess., just release any of the 2 fish people vs gilgoblin and its done. A new race using a existing model vs a recolour of a unpopular race.
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