I love how you all talk about it like its a singular one time thing. You will keep getting it week after week after week for killing afk ppl. So change that to free PIECES of gear that can go up to 420
I would be down for that, actually.
Inb4 Blizzard hotfix all 400 that the Alliance got and nerf it down to 385(Like they did for the bugged transmog mace). That seem to be the best thing to do. nod nod
On a more serious note. Was AH Warfront launch before/in-same time/after Uldir?
If it was before or in-same time, then why they think 400 is a bit too much here?
370 back then was âa bit too muchâ yet, they did nothing. Why would they do soemthing here?
Sorry, this wonât happen.
We never know, we all know how Blizzard can be unpredictable.
The only other logic thing to do, is to let the horde get their week of 400 and move the future reward to 385 afterwards. Problem solved. EZ Clap
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Alliance is outnumbered 3:1 or more, genius. If anything, itâs not enough.
Not sure where you see that Alliance get outnumbered 3:1 in warmode, but the way i saw it. the alliance are outnumbering the horde at least by 1.5:1
And yet itâs still not enough to make me turn warmode on.
No thanks. Hate PvP.
30% is a lot, you donât even realise it.
Yeah lets argue about whether its âfree lootâ or â5 minute lootâ
cant believe alliance think free raid gear is organic for the game as a whole
So here is my 2 cents on the matter. As a Horde player yes, the 370 loot at the start of the warfronts was probably a tad much. Just like how right now this 400 IL piece is to much. However what really makes me angry is that this is a warmode incentive that the alliance will be getting every week. Even if itâs nerfed to 385 it doesnât matter. This quest isnât offered to those of us on the horde side. We donât get a free piece of gear every week. And before anyone starts to say âThis isnât free we have to kill 25 level 120 horde players to get this lootâ tell me that when you arenât mass raiding our lands in a bunch of 5 man groups that gang up on 1 - 3 players in a mass of 15 - 20 total alliance. Tell me that when your huge hordes of players stop killing level 111âs who are just trying to quest and get the measly 10% bonus that we get for being in warmode. Tell me that when you all arenât getting what is the equivalent of the new raids heroic tier gear, DAY 1 of the raid being released. You all know this quest takes very little time and effort to complete and yes you all have the audacity to sit here and tell us to turn off warmode, or cry less, when you all get so very clearly the biased hands towards you. I shouldnât have to turn off warmode because Iâm getting destroyed by 10 alliance players while leveling an alt. I should have to turn it off because I keep losing to a 1v1, or hell even a 1v2/1v3. Not a 1v10/1v15/1v20 or gods forbid the guild group I saw yesterday. 8 groups of 5, rampaging through vuldune.
Imagine you are the youngest child and your older, cooler sister (who is obviously your parentâs favourite as they have told you she is cooler) gets a new bike. Your hand gets held by your Mum and you get told to wait your turn ⌠wait till you grow up and get strong but in the meantime I will buy you some sweets.
Thatâs like Blizzard dealing with the AllianceâŚ
Sounds like exactly the reason you should turn off War Mode.
If youâre losing a 1v1, thatâs a you issue. If people are mass camping flight path or world quests or whatever, and creating a group to deal with them isnât a practical issue, then it sounds like turning off War Mode is the best recourse in those scenarios.
Open your other eyeâŚWelcome to Alliance for the first 4-5 months of WoW. And we werenât even levelling⌠Sure Horde didnât group up so much but they didnât have to when 30+ horde were already within a 200 yard radius doing the quests in that area with WM on. We may as well have walked into a horde raid group every quest. Horde got their 4-5 months of bonus while Alliance were turning WM off fast. We were all cowards apparently. Now when we group up to get WM stuff done we still get called cowards.
That said, incentives for Alliance to be more involved in PvP is still bandaiding the problem. Blizzard continue to show Horde in a more positive light than Alliance. This is almost unconscious bias. Case to point âYouâre welcome Allianceâ
2x 4 man groups is how they are doing it to both be able to get the tags on players
Blizzard completely broke world pvp because of this. I have played on a pvp server for a long time. Although I do some arenas (my son and I play a few characters in the 1600s), we prefer world pvp. It just took us a few hours to do the faction invasion quest with war mode on. Now it wasnât that we were getting killed by good allies. We won every single fight where we were only down a few people (before the ally raids could catch us). The majority of the allies, to our great shock, keyboard turned and couldnât kill a healer even with 3-4 snaring and stunning. So why again, do they get to slaughter the Horde, making the game unplayable for those of us who actually like world pvp? Then, if that isnât fun enough, these kids get to camp us for 20 minutes+ at every single quest? And there is no way for us to fight back because the incentives for them are just too high? Great game design.
I know that the allies arenât really in raids because they wouldnât get credit for their welfare loot quest. There are just so many that it looks like there are multiple raids. Hordes of Allies (yeah, Blizz, listen to how silly that sounds), are just running around trying to tag a Hordie to get their 25 kills for their welfare 400.
Blizz obviously underestimated the Allies. The devs never imagined how many cowards the Allies have. I never saw it coming either. Allies definitely arenât that bad in arenas or rated BGs. I never realized how many keyboard turners make up the Alliance until I saw them come out for their welfare loot. Wow! Iâm glad that I am Horde. It would be depressing to play for a faction that is so bad or so scared to world pvp (whatever the case may be) that they have to get bribed to fight. No thanks!
In any case, Blizz devs, you made it impossible for those of us who actually like world pvp to world pvp. Thanks, Blizz! At least itâs easy for me to hit my conquest cap. Itâs not the inability to get conquest that bugs me. My family and I just want our world pvp back. Now that we know how the allies really are with world pvp, can we change it back so that those of us who like world pvp can actually world pvp again? Pretty please?!
Want some cheese with that whine? I levelled in warmode and there was nary an alliance in sight due to horde camping the bejesus out of them at the time. Just got a free 10% buff. Now the shoeâs on the other foot, alliance arenât actually supremely outnumbered and youâre crying foul.
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I was having trouble with picking which asinine statement you said but this one is ridiculous. More horde pvp than alliance and have for the last 4 years straight. Because of that alliance are cowards? most of the player base doesnât even like pvp, get off your horse man.
Edit: I would feel sympathy for the horde if it wasnât being camped by 15-20 man raids not even a month into the expansion where i couldnât do anythingâŚthen get told to âSuck it up, git gud, turn off warmodeâ So yeah, nah. Cry me another river.
When more alliance turn on warmode than horde
Simple math. When alliance war mode > horde war mode. Itâs about 60/40 horde right now so you might be waiting a while.