Well, the difference between the stories was that Alliance and Horde both had the same opportunities at the reward. Horde had 10%, Alliance had 10%.
One faction wasn’t denied it. Both had access to it. It was there. The only problem was the imbalance, that’s all. Alliance didn’t want to turn on War Mode because the 10% wasn’t enough for them. Throw in a ilvl 400 piece of gear though, and it’s suddenly worth it.
The current story is that Horde don’t have access to that quest at all. I really don’t care about the 30%, but that quest is something both factions should have access to.
You realize just because someone isn’t in a raid group specifically, they can still be in multiple 5 man groups in one area, and it’s basically a raid group.
True story here, I know a few Alliance friends who made a raid group, and split the 25m group into 5 separate groups just so they could get credit for the quest.
If Horde also gets the 400 gear quest , alliance will run away like in 8.0. It’s a fact , the devs know it which is why Horde will never get the quest .
I’ve no bones with taking steps to equalize things, but handing out ilevel 400 gear to one faction only is nothing short of ludicrous. Aside form the obvious gearing benefits, it provides a direct incentive for one faction to make large groups while the other faction has no reason to do so. End result: raid groups camping flight points.
I swear the majority of alliance players act just like liberals. It is ok as long as it benefits my faction, no matter fair play is fair play, but fix it when it does not benefit me.
It’s bad game design to discourage one half of the player base from participating in a certain activity, both Horde and Alliance.
Matter of the fact is, Horde doesn’t want to participate in War Mode because they aren’t getting anything out of it. Alliance have incentive to kill Horde, while Horde doesn’t have any incentive to kill Alliance. That’s why Horde don’t want to fight back against the Alliance camping world quest areas.
Let Alliance keep their 30% and Horde their 10%. I just don’t see the harm in giving Horde a quest to kill Alliance for a piece of gear. Alliance wouldn’t get swarmed, they’d just have to put up more of a fight than they do now. (which isn’t much, Alliance currently don’t have to do anything, Horde aren’t fighting back because no incentive)
None of it is good game design … I rather that the AOO quest be abolished completely or the gear level reduced . Giving heroic raid level gear is just stup1d.
As someone else pointed out, it does only work in groups. The problem is, people can form a raid group, (say a 30 man raid group) and split that raid into party groups. They can then still roam around as a, “raid group.”
Honestly, the best solution for this would be to count kills based off of how much honor is awarded per kill. For example, currently, honor is distributed based on how many attacked the target killed. If one person kills another in War Mode, they’re rewarded 16 honor or so. (let’s just say 16).
When another person hops onto that target, and it’s 2v1 and they kill that one person, that 16 honor is instead 8 honor. (8 for each.)
Now, if 5 people kill one target, they’ll be rewarded around 3 honor each. The solution to go about awarding quest credit is, if you get below 3 honor per kill, it won’t reward the quest credit. (since 5 people is a 5 man party, anything more is a raid.)
BIIIIIGGGGG difference, your faction chose not to turn on WM and participate. It took free loot and larger bonus. Now with the free 400 gear quest even those that would never turn it on are doing so. Once the quest is complete I’m sure it goes right back off. You think that’s the same as it was prior to 8.1?
So these forum posts have cracked me up. I kept seeing everywhere Horde QQ, Horde Tears, blah blah blah. You know what’s funny is that while the Alliance we’re too busy camping a flight point with a 40 man raid to go after 4 people at a time, the Horde went and got world first heroic raid clear because the Horde don’t need to be catered to in order to do content.