Which doesn’t matter one bit. Honor is relative to your own faction and is not at all comparable between factions.
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Alliance res at the SPGY 10 at time and not the cave even though the cave is better and closer to SH.
Abusing report is not a problem since you cant get insta kicked anymore
And the vanilla the experience was ruined from the get-go, as a original Vanilla player I can say it was nothing like it. So why not prioritize fun over some fake nostalgia fantasy.
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Um, you can when the game is this broken. When people go 178 games without winning, like the poor dude trying to get the wand, you certainly can blame the game (and props to him… that is some kind of determination, lol).
There is simply no way any realistic, intellectually honest person could think that’s okay.
Of course, people are going to give up if they don’ t think they even stand a chance of winning.
*oh, i see a renowned troll furiously writing… this should be good.
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It wasnt the horde cave
It wasnt horde racials
It wasnt the mythical favourtism to the horde by blizz
It just took the Alliance to stop sucking
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Nah, I would rather you retain burden of proof.
It was told to the alliance players and now it been proven
It wasnt the map, racials or anything else
It was the alliance playerbase being terrible
Yes brother that’s all that is to it
Horde gud
Alliance bad
And, the troll didn’t disappoint. 
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The abuse was reporting them as /spamming so you could force them to disconnect and take group-leadership away from someone. This also put a flag on their account and squelched them.
I personally would not mind if it forced people to spawn at graveyards, but then again I also would not have minded if Warmasters were linked to Drek. But the Alliance argued against it because that was the way it was in the past.
Like I said, i don’t mind that change…just that Alliance argued against changes that would hurt them because it was not changed until TBC too.
the player base is there reason av is the way it is retail av players dont act like classic players.
blizzard cant fix how a player base plays av that is up to the players.
Does that video show both factions timed to the entrance of each general building?
It shows the Horde reaching it faster than the fastest Alliance premades have - even in Classic. So yes, it demonstrates the point perfectly.
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To be honest I would want them to swap to korrak’s revenge prior to making any individual tweaks.
I don’t think anyone wanted the version of AV we ended up with.
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Right on the edge of FOS is “kinda out of the way” of what exactly?
I dont know the offensive push? If we dont have SFGY there is absolutely no reason for alliance to be in the area or travel through it. Unlike the druids one… even coming down from SFGY you can see them gathering and disrupt the summoning.
The horde summoning circle is literally right by the bottom of the south ramp to snowfall. How is that out of the way?
False. In a full on foot race, horde will reach Vann faster than alliance reach Drek. If the fact that horde can reach stone hearth at the same time as alliance doesn’t clue you into that, then you are hopeless.
As for the map advantages - at no point in AV history has alliance had the ability to deny horde of all bonus honor. Never. Horde have that capability now and have done it historically. If the map favored alliance, as so many horde claim, it should be possible to do the same to horde. The map straight up favors horde in many ways. The cave and iceblood are the most obvious.
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Do they not teach Cows cartography in Thunderbuff?
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i’m always on rp or pve servers, my dude. stating the obvious isn’t tears. though you do a lot of trolling these kinds of threads so it doesn’t surprise me you made a comment to me.
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