I’m calling horde who whine about AV premades but not WSG premades hypocrits.
LOL dude, you’re unhinged.
“The death of a faction and the quitting of thousands.” Please enlighten me as to what horde exploit caused such damage.
I’m willing to bet thousands of alliance did quit or transfer during phase 2 and whenever someone suggested that blizzard do something about it all horde would say is “git gud”
I’ve heard this as well, 75% of alliance hate Premades as well, ill bet Blizz does fix it, not only because horde cry about it, but because i screws over your entire faction as well.
First, it’s not an exploit. It’s the same as jumping over our fence to not have to go through the gate.
Second, it takes one defender to stop everyone trying to get up the little hill.
And what about wpvp is exploiting? That is the topic being discussed, though I’m not surprised you missed it.
We on heartseeker didn’t whine incessantly about “game unplayable.”
dude just go join av 24/7 cross server premade. google exactly that. your AV games will become 100% more enjoyable and you will actually socialize in an MMORPG. crazy i know.
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Lol the funny part is both factions could always queue with premades for WSG. Oh wait…logic. Forgot you don’t have it.
Yea dude alliance totally hate winning AV and having a great time screwing around in Discord with likeminded friends. Totally. We enjoy getting completely dominated each game for 40 minutes and getting no honor.
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Nothing about what alliance is doing is exploiting though.
They’re just taking advantage of the over population of horde. In this case it happens to work out in alliance favor where as it worked out the other way in phase 2.
People need to start reporting these premades. Screenshot the players names and shame them. I hope they get banned
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Either premades fighting pugs is fair or it isn’t.
Logic.
They will adapt and over come and then the alliance will complain about the horde playing defense slowing down there honor per honor.
It’s a vicious circle. Glad I decided not to pvp this time around.
Logic is that BOTH factions can queue with 10 people for WSG while one faction (alliance) uses the imbalance / queue times to their advantage to circumvent the fact that AV was not designed nor intended to allow premades at all. LOGIC
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No, logic is that premades fighting pugs is fair or it isn’t.
I don’t care why you are in a pug vs a premade, either it’s acceptable or it’s not. You happen to be disadvantaged because you play on the dominant faction too bad, I happen to be disadvantaged because my playstyle lends itself to solo queueing. We both get to suffer equally.
But its not an “artifact” of the queueing system itself, its exploiting that artifact that makes it a very viable and a very consistent way of getting 35+ of the people you want into the same BG. You dont just happen to get all the people you want into the same AV organically, if it was happening completely organically(which would mean there would be HAVE to be a good amount of failure to get all 30-40 people into the same AV too, but there isnt and youre able to very consistently achieve that goal through deliberate means) then it wouldnt be something you can reliably repeat with great success.
Its really simple, AV was meant to be a “PUG” style BG where you are completely randomly matched with members of your own faction against the opposite faction who were also completely randomly matched. If youre taking consistent, deliberate measures to ensure your team ISNT random and is instead a group of people you want to play with, and the method you found is reliably successful at accomplishing that…congrats you just exploited your way around something to achieve an unintended, and undesired(by Blizzard, when they created AV and the rules for it) result. There is no two-ways about it, im not sure how theres even a debate at this point about whether or not its an exploit when its objectively very clear that it is . People need to either read up on what game exploits are by definition or stop being willfully ignorant if they know full well what a game exploit is.
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And guess what when one faction has nearly instant queues and the other has massive queues… the faction with short queues is very likely going to be matched with people queueing at the same time.
That is the system working as intended.
What you mean the horde will defend with 30 instead of 20+? Please do not make sound like the horde are pvp gods. Remove all the afk bots and pve heroes we have to carry on alliance side and then it might be even.
I have gone up against lots of rank12, 13 1v1 and wiped the floor with them. Rogues especially are funny. Oh, and frapping andy’s, can’t forget about them.
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…Blizzard intentionally does not allow raids to queue in AV.
Alliance are circumventing this mechanic and queuing as raids. This is an exploit.
I get why it’s done, and I still enjoy AV, but it’s aggravating that fools like you argue against reality because you’re biased. Just admit you’re a cheater and we’re cool.
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Yeah 1v1 pvp as a mage is hard. Really showing how elite you are wiping the floor with melee as frost.
What a clown.