for real some of you are putting way too much thought into blizzard’s bad writing lol
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But Teldrassil wasn’t corrupted anymore?
Elune is the closest thing to being a deity WoW has, according to Blizzard. Which also includes mysterious “plans” and absences. Also keep in mind the story needed to happen that way for events to unfold.
0/10
Also not even deserving of 10 chars.
No one hates Thalassians more than Thalassians.
Teldrassil is connected to Darkshore, though, and for Ally toons it was extremely annoying having to tell Zidormi to switch to the pre- or post-barbecue version almost every time they needed something from Darnassus or old Darkshore. It was also annoying as Horde to have Zidormi switch between pre- and post-blighted Undercity for world events.
I agree. The game hasn’t had much literary competence for a while now.
Says you, I loved Darnassus
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Recently? Mate they had that practically all of last xpac. Even when they had a 3 to 1 ratio Alli still had the WM bonus along with “Against Overwhelming Odds” which gave them Heroic raid level gear for joining a PvP raid group and flight point camping lowbies.
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Sylvanas cares a lot more than you think she doesn’t. Everything she ever loved and cared for was ripped away from her while she repeatedly struggled for MONTHS to protect it all. Then, she was also denied the peace of death and turned in to a banshee.
Following that, all she wanted was revenge against Arthas–not knowing about the grander scheme of things until she learned Arthas was dead, went to Icecrown and threw herself from atop it to her death.
That’s when she learned what a GAME everything is; Everybody is just a toy to powers far superior to the likes of her, and her life is a complete mockery in their eyes.
Evil by virtue you say? She’s “evil” because you want her to be.
When she attacked Teldrassil, do you remember the video with the Night Elf she approached? She told that Night Elf, who asked her if she remembers being in the Night Elf’s shoes, and Sylvanas told her that “I remember a fool” in regards to herself. She also showed that NE every futile attempt at resistance and told her basically, “Now you know the truth.”
Elune being an all-powerful deity comes with the all-knowing and all-seeing eye and gifts there-of. She sees everything. She simply cares not for lesser races.
Hell, she doesn’t even actually care about Tyrande. Though it appears she cared for Ysera.
For that matter: Did the Winter Queen say that Ysera was the creation of her sister? To me, that sounded like WQ was saying Ysera is like Elune’s child? And if that is the case: What other primordial beings created/infused the other Dragonflights? If not the case, then oh well.
The alliance didn’t destroy undercity. It was the horde warchief that destroyed it.
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And she chose to respond by taking away other people lives and happiness, that makes her no better then arthas in fact it makes her worse I want to believe arthas wasint fully in control of his actions
It depends on shard, and Oceanic is Ally dominated but draws on the NA servers so it has the bonus.
Oh yeah if I recall she blight bombed her own forces. Way to pick em Vol’jin
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We have no idea what her motivations are or what she cares about - or if she’s even as cognizant as the Winter Queen.
The Winter Queen called Ysera her, “sister’s pet”.
Nah she started the fourth war bc blizz promised a faction conflict expac and gave us MoP 2.0 with more old gods this time.
Except we have reason to believe that Arthas was in control of his sense of reason, and at least purpose. He wanted to turn the entirety of Azerothian life in to undeath to basically make them immortal beings–they wouldn’t have to go through such a cruel fate.
At least, if I’ve been paying attention right and wasn’t smoking anything when trying to follow recent lore insights (I don’t smoke.)
But yes, Sylvanas is reacting the way she is. But I think, in the end, the ones that she was involved with killing are going to return to Azeroth. I have multiple reasons for thinking so.
Basically:
- We know from BFA that the Alliance and Horde are severally drained on resources and manpower. Machinations from super powers outside of Azeroth, as well as constant in-fighting and global warfare has led to this predicament. They need to increase their manpower at the least in some form, and a babyboom isn’t nearly quick enough. At the end of Shadowlands, I believe quite a great many souls of Azerothian nature are going to develop purely physical bodies and return to Azeroth with us (if they weren’t already purely physical to begin with in the Shadowlands.)
- I feel like Sylvanas and The Jailer are being setup for redemption arcs. Whether or not Sylvanas returns to Azeroth with us, or is given the Illidan treatment, I can’t say.
- All of the souls that Sylvanas was involved sending in to the Shadowlands should be in The Maw. This is the Jailer’s personal realm since the great betrayal, and he should have an accurate account of every soul sent there. It is entirely possible that Sylvanas struck some form of deal with him to keep an account of those souls for the end of their arrangement.
- Once The Jailer and Sylvanas’ plan comes to fruition (Ardenweald must fall for this to happen at the least), the Shadowlands as we currently know it should pretty much all become simply The Maw. This puts the Jailer in his original power state–which should be quite enormous. It’s probable he could have the power to do such a thing, given he’d be one of the most omnipotent beings we’ve ever seen at that point.
- Finally, for future expansions, I feel like we’ll simply need more bodies… Next power struggles are going to be against phenomena like the Void. Fighting that with Champions, Heroes and Racial Leaders alone doesn’t sound probable given that the Void almost conquered The Shadowlands previously before that tide turned with a single sacrificial act (Not a feat that anybody on Azeroth, except maybe Anduin–infused with a Naaru as he is–could possibly pull off, I think.)
I don’t doubt it. She has mentioned enough for us to at least make that assumption. I just hope it’s not a redemption arch. Bit hard to look passed her actions and say… oh well, all is forgiven.
Either way, I’m referring to that specific series of events, which I believe was intentionally done to inflict as much death as possible. I mean… She killed parts of both factions “defending” Lordaeron.
In reality, I would agree with you. But from a story perspective, the march on Teldrassil was done to make it look intimidating for some wow factor. A surprise attack from the catapults first would have done a lot more damage.
That’s how I see it anyway.
Oh, I know. And her replacement being Calia Menethil leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. I simply follow Sylvanas in-depth because I appreciate the character. Plus, I brainstorm, theorize and hypothesize a lot when I am curious or involved (I do the same for Dragon Age, omg…)
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Well, you and the other 5 people can just use the NPC if you want.
Yes I’ve heard reasons he was in control of his actions but his final words call all of that into question and up until his inner monologue with his childhood and Ner’zul there is every reason to believe he was not in control of his actions and was fighting against it. Sylvaness can’t be redeems she has no problem with condemning countless souls either to hell or oblivion. Who gave her the right to decide that who made her god?
It’s hard to imagine that there are actually people writing these threads sometimes.
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