I logged into classic era WoW and noticed all of my characters on Faerlina were moved to WOTLK Sulfuras. I did not do this. When did this happen and why did this happen? Every character I left on classic era I wanted to stay there. I did not want these characters moved to WOTLK. This also happened to my characters on Mankrik classic era. They’re all moved over to WOTLK.
If you did not actively utilize the Character Clone service before it was retired, they were moved to Burning Crusade (now Wrath) as promised.
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So instead of just leaving the characters alone they just sent them all over to WOTLK. Why not just leave them on classic era? I feel like they just assumed everyone who didn’t make the choice at the time wanted their characters on WOTLK. I feel like it should’ve been the other way around.
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It was advertised pretty heavily. We were given plenty of warning.
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The only people who made these decisions are the Devs, and they don’t have to explain why they do what they do - nor do they come to this forum. There was over a year’s time that the cloning service was available from the time of TBCC’s pre-patch release up until it was discontinued in July 2022. It was blasted all over the forums, the launcher and anywhere else they could. If you had left the game and hadn’t stayed up on things, that isn’t really their fault. There was plenty of opportunity to make the decision to clone or not.
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Thats not the point I was making at all. The point is nothing should have been done on behalf of the customer. The characters that no decision to clone was made for should have stayed on the classic era realms they were made. I had no idea any character no decision was made on would be forced over to WOTLK and on servers I did not choose as well. This should not have been done.
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AFAIK, when BC classic was release, Classic Era was completely wiped, then devs began working on the hardcore classic system on a fresh Classic Era build.
Not sure why, but the devs would have had a good reason to do things this way.
But it was.
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My classic era characters on Bigglesworth are still there. Apparently I chose to keep them on classic at the time. I didn’t know the rest of my characters would be transferred to BC.
Ok? And you said this because?
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Just going to be frank: fighting about what’s done isn’t going to changed. It was declared that the devs was going to do this. They reused the old servers of classic to make the BC and now WotLK servers, along with hard core. They’re not going to make a lot of servers for the sake of not moving someone’s toon that may never play again.
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Because it’s the harsh reality of the situation, and that you feel it shouldn’t have been done this way.
There was plenty of warning given beforehand. Because you didn’t know doesn’t make it wrong.
At some point players need to become responsible for their decisions - you mentioned characters on other realms were preserved - then you made a conscious decision to utilise the functionality that Blizzard provided. Sadly, not for all your characters.
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Ekon gives you the link to the article right below your post, Anorel.
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Yes I am aware now of why this happened, and I still believe it was wrong. A player’s characters should be left alone, where they made them, no matter what.
If the player did not choose anything for their character then nothing should have been done for it. It should not have been an automatic transfer, clone or whatever they did because no action was taken by the player. It should’ve been the other way around where if you made no choice then you missed out on being able to have your character cloned on WOTLK instead of losing it on classic era where the character was made.
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You’re entitled to how you feel, no one is faulting you in that. You’ve been given the same information that all of us other players were given.
If you want to voice your displeasure? You’re doing it in the wrong place. Because of this forums format - being a place for players to assist other players - no staff comes here to collect data or feedback. Yes, we’ve got our Blues like Orlyia above, but she is an SFA. It is not part of her job to relay these things along, and again, no other staff comes here - GMs, Devs, QA - no one.
Now, if you want your voice to be heard? You can post about this in the WoW Classic/WotLK Classic General Discussion forums, or you can send it through the in-game suggestion and feedback interface. All of these methods are one-way communications, but that data is collected by the Devs and their CMs.
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That’s not quite how it worked. The characters weren’t moved, the servers themselves evolved from Classic to Burning Crusade to Wrath. If you wanted the characters to remain in Classic, the clone service was there to copy them to the new Classic servers.
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At the risk of being pedantic, this also isn’t quite accurate. With the launch of tbcc prepatch, ALL Classic toons were disabled. Classic Era/TBC realms were created and then players were given the choice to reactivate their disabled toons on either version for free. If they wanted a toon to be active on both, then they had to pay a cloning fee.
As tbc progressed into wrath, that cloning service was retired and all toons that were never reactivated were deleted from Era and activated on wrath. Likewise, Era toons had their inactive TBC/wrath clone deleted & TBC/wrath toons had their inactive Era clone deleted.
My condolences OP on your loss of Era toons. While the cloning retirement was broadcasted on the forums, I still think an email notification would have been the most appropriate means of communicating this significant event.
The good news is that Classic Era isn’t going anywhere and it’s possible to reroll those lost characters with any of the various Classic Era communities available.
I thought not getting an email about the service seems not right either, I have a garbage Hotmail account that stuff like this goes to and never gets deleted, I looked back and there was an email containing your exact info when TBC first dropped then a reminder about the service expiring later on. I feel bad for OP because my classic era are gone as well, but it was my choice, I refused to pay for a character copy to have both. But it’s not like the Devs tried to sneak this one by it was very loudly announced their intentions with classic era characters, and the time limit was known from the moment clones when live.
I want to re-iterate though, I also think they should have just left them, the only reason the time limit existed and the choice was there was for the charge aspect of it. It sounds like OP was MIA for a few years like we all do from time to time and came back to a blank slate which sucks. But maybe you can find a new guild and re-level / re-progress through the classic content again. That’s always fun too.
As was stated a few posts up - this isn’t the forum to add your voice to anything because it isn’t being heard by the people who need to hear it. This forum is strictly one for players to assist other players. Absolutely no staff comes here to see this sort of thing, so you’re speaking to us - your fellow players. We have nothing to do with the decisions made.
Ultimately, this forum exists to help players with what issues they have, and if it’s something beyond our reach, we get them pointed in the proper direction. It’s not necessarily one for discourse and discussions like these, especially when there are other forums that exist solely for those reasons.
So, if you think it was handled poorly, then please post your feedback in the appropriate forum(s) (Classic GD, GD) or send it through the in-game suggestion and feedback interface. There are I don’t even know how many threads up in either forum, but they’re likely to be well buried since this service closed out and most of the discussions revolving around it ended over a year ago.
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You certainly can, but your voice and your opinions will not be heard by a single member of the staff who makes those decisions. THAT is what I was trying to inform you of. I didn’t say you couldn’t post here. I instead explained why I was telling you and anyone else who posts their thoughts, opinions and suggestions that - because this forum isn’t for that type of thing.
I didn’t need to, I don’t particularly care about the conversation in this case. I do care about how folks feel and firmly believe that their voices should be heard - which again, by posting here? Isn’t happening because of what this forum exists to do.
For some reason, a lot of people struggle with the idea that this forum - ONLY this forum - does not have staff collecting data, feedback and suggestions from it.
You believed that Blizzard could have done things differently. There were other parts to your post but your opinions, those I focused on because Blizzard should know how someone thinks things should have been handled. That’s the only reason I responded because you expressing them here means nothing because we, as your fellow players, can do nothing with them.
Also.
Really?
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I think we can lock this one now.
It might just be me, but I haven’t been able to see those pictures lately.
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