I DONT know what happen with blizzard, affliction is crap in cleave with 2 or 3 adds, dont have control shards regen is total rng, destro rain hit terrible weak, and demonology need less requierements in spend shards for call demons, ruin, mother etc., remember demo dont have soulburn and haste is cracp right now for spend shards for demons, this need a fix, (sorry english, barely english)
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Sounds like user error to me!
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With destro are you playing mythic+ talents and diabolist? Are you communicating with your tank that 80% of your damage is from rain of fire and they shouldn’t be tugging trash out of it?
Rain of fire 80% of your damage? ( there’s your problem ) Are you guys casting Shadow burn or chaos bolt at all? Those should be your highest damage spells. Use havoc. Go buy some tempered swiftness flasks or use a stormriders fury enchant if your haste is low. Take a look here and see what kind of talents and gear people are using https ://u.gg/wow/tier-list/dps-rankings
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I do more than a Fury, MM, with affliction, def user error on this one
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Affliction is okay. Destruction is viable (but not great). Demonology is just pure garbage in all forms of content. Warlock overall is in a pretty poor state. The class just get bug fixes that should’ve been addressed prior to launch - some of which are even nerfs which is baffling when they’re already performing behind most specs.
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Destro is 10th best m+ and 9th best dps.
Most certainly user error.
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It’s pretty decent right now. Nothing crazy good, just slightly above the mid-point. If you’re doing lower keys, it’ll feel much worse because we have some insane ramp times. You start looking at Sacbrood + Rain of Chaos + Spymasters and for a spec like Destro, where you’d normally want to pull like 20-30% of the dungeon in the first pull, you just don’t have that option anymore.
Even Infernal will last 40 seconds with Diabolist. Even if a pull lasts that long, most of the mobs will all be dead.
Chaos bolt and shadow burn are single target. Are you seriously having issues with casting rain of fire? Next thing I know you’ll tell me you aren’t using demonfire as well.
It’s certainly not 80% of my damage or even close and like I said shadow burn and chaos bolt are your highest damage spells. Havoc is also 2 target. No I don’t use demon fire lol…maybe for an all out aoe hellcaller build. I’m not the one saying warlock sucks or is having problems in mythic plus either. Edit: You can check my profile and see exactly what talents I’m using btw.
I wouldn’t say weak at all, I main Aff and only lose to the top specs (Ret, Frost and Assass) but weak it’s not the word. Demo is the only spec that is weak but they’re severely weak everywhere. Only compaints I have is that there’s a huge disparity in Hero Talents, I wanna play Hellcaller but it just simply ain’t good as SH because you can’t generate a bunch of Shards. They should at least make Malevolence a 30s cooldown as a quick way to increse stacks, but they should def rework some nodes to make it viable anywhere.
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Why am I not surprised that you’ve ghosted your own post like clowns always do.
Aff is nuts in high keys, and destro is strong.
1/10 troll, get better.
no am here, the problem with affliction is the RNG with shards regen
you just have to find your flow
F&B? no soulfire? havoc over mayhem?
let 'im cook lol
FnB has some decent representation at higher keys, some are actually opting to drop soul fire, and there’s definitely use cases for regular Havoc over Mayhem. Maybe not all at once, but it’s not super set in stone.
Locks do well with a good tank. Hence why Destro isn’t really played until much later keys where whole rooms are pulled for supreme cleave aoe damage.
Lower keys, demo is better because of the on demand burst that these lower keys with low skill level tanks pull only 1 pack at a time.
Higher keys, Affliction/Destro do well. Good tanks with good pulls we do extremely well.
Boils down to tank pulls… the more the better we perform.
Why are you casting RoF with 2 to 3 targets?
That’s what mayhem havoc is for.
I just did a 9 before work with my guild and almost never did less than 1 million on any trash pull. Often closer to 2 mill.
Wasn’t even using m+ build since we had an unholy dk and a demo lock doing m+ aoe pump. Was using council build.
Destro is OK. Aff is… viable.
The main problem with this class in general is dealing with adds that don’t live a long time. That’s supposed to be Demos niche, but since Demo basically got left in the dust on their Tier Set bonus (… Shadow Bolt buff? Really? The spec that literally says “Demon” in it, and you base the set bonus on… not demons?), Warlocks in general don’t really have a good answer for that.
For Aff, really want to see Vile Taint or Phantom Singularity go baseline (it is so awkward having to constantly change those two talents), and have Vile Taint lose it’s cooldown. It just doesn’t make sense for it to be 30 seconds when most classes can just Zug zug down adds as they come. Aff locks aren’t doing any real damage outside of a Soul Rot window, so it’s not gonna change much if Vile Taint could be cast anytime you have a Soul Shard.
Same deal with Cataclysm, really, though it’s more solid than Vile Taint since it has compelling up front damage. 20s CD would be appreciated though, so we can actually respond to these Gauntlet Style dungeons/raid encounters Blizzard is apparently obsessed with this tier.
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Because people don’t read guides and will press buttons that feel better
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