Aggrend's Stance on the Incorrect Ban Fearmongering

Figured someone should post this for those who don’t use twitter.

TL;DR: He’s calling the people who claimed they got banned incorrectly liars. And also Blizzard’s new measures are working as far as they’re concerned.

https://twitter.com/AggrendWoW/status/1762177416083214821

I think it’s safe to say at this point that this fear is something of a boogeyman, likely created by those who claim to have been banned unfairly but left out a key detail in their anecdote, or is fabricated by those who don’t like this particular policy change and want to rally support against it by creating fear from nothing (not like anything like this has ever happened on the internet…)

Is it possible to catch an incorrect ban? Maybe. Anything is possible, but in the vast majority of cases we’ve reviewed of folks who claim “to have only traded gold with a friend” or “We had a rare item drop and split the profits” or something similar, the ban has been justified and something else illicit actually occurred. The majority is so far in the favor of legitimate bans, that any false positives are not numerous enough for statistical significance.

There reality is if you play the game, interact with the trading and AH systems in place, don’t accept large sums of gold from total strangers (i.e. if you see 1k gold pop up in your mailbox from someone you don’t know, you should return it), and don’t buy gold or buy/sell items in a dungeon/raid, you will likely be fine. We can’t give you exact specifics and guidelines for every edge case interaction between players.

Re: Cross-game trading specifically, I’ll reiterate that we do not in any way support cross-game trading. Is it against the rules? That answer is nuanced but if you arrange a trade with a stranger across games and that stranger has been involved in gold selling (a huge number are) then you could get a suspension for that as it looks like you bought that gold. If its a good friend you know and trust, that is safer and that’s the scenario we don’t want to outright forbid, but these types of transactions are not supported by us for a reason. They are another great way to obfuscate bad behavior and are more often than not used that way. You are ultimately responsible to ensure you know and trust the people you are dealing with. If you can’t verify that or be sure of it, it’s safer not to do it.

This was a lot of words to say that the actions we are taking are effective. Some folks have gotten away with buying gold in the past. Now fewer are getting away with it and its being felt. We will never win the war on RMT, at least not fully, but the things we can do is focus on ways to make it less profitable and more painful for bad actors to conduct this business. Going after buyers and cracking down on exploits in these murky grey areas is one of the things are we are doing. My advice is don’t let misinformation distract you. The fact that there is this much noise around this means that the paradigm has changed and for the most part, that is a good thing.

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If they dont review any tickets or ban appeals. How would they even know :joy:

Its just one dude copy pasting a paragraph saying the ban was taken in accordance with game policies, even for people that arent banned

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Yep he’s right. It’s a bunch of mad GDKPers who are mad they got caught buying gold.

Sometimes you get got. Stop crying about it. You lost and got caught cheating. You aren’t as clever as you thought.

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Blizzard this week: rolls up sleeves " 'bout time we snuffed out the trolls trying to sabre-rattle their way back into GDKP raiding."

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I started another thread, but I’ll ask here too. Does this mean that Blizz is looking into this on a case-by-case basis? My guildmates and I farm Ulda blues to sell on the AH and split the gold. We will farm it casually during the week, and sell everything on a Friday, to split the gold on a Monday. We’ve been hesitant to do so after seeing some of the fear-mongering but would like to continue.

Will I catch a ban because of some algorithm? Or are there actual real people investigating this?

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They aren’t going to tell you specifics. If you get banned make a ticket. That is all you can do.

Just don’t get banned. It should be easy if you aren’t cheating.

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“No false positives”

Checks out Erosium’s last video… Checks out.

I wonder what would of happened if Archvaldor didn’t do a video on it, how many auto replies it would of been.

Saying this, 99% of the posts are likely to be lies.

They never said there are no false positives.

Stay mad cheater.

They said they do have some false positives but the number is low and inflated by LIARS on the internet.

Like you probably.

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Don’t be so emotional, he’s not wrong lol. A lot of people who claim unfair bans are actually banned for RMT. You’d be surprised how many people have bought gold over the course of WoWs history. It’s just now they are cracking down much harder than they have before so it’s taking a lot of repeat offenders by surprise.

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That was pretty instant, and I was talking about a Youtuber not me.

I never cheated ever in my life. Maybe used Black Sheep Wall a few times.

Well, that’s just it, with the lack of clarity how am I supposed to know? Being banned, and then appealing it, is still an inconvenience. If they were to just flat out say “Yeah don’t do that” then we wouldn’t and instead work out a loot rotation to sell things on the AH.

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I always find myself more concerned about the rampant number of bots than I am about any of this. Though I am happy GDKP was banned.

You can’t read obviously since he said there are false positives but not that many.

Get rekt GDKPer. LOL.

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Mate I’m not a GDKPer you absolute melon.

Lets hope real players have a place to go to like he did, or it will just be auto reply central.

I can log in just fine mate. Though its uninstalled after watching 1000s of bots come outa stockades.

You are one of those :clown_face: who think we shouldn’t have laws because they aren’t enforced perfectly.

Welcome to the real world.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPflIl6BQ

Wow you mad.

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People are lying about being falsely banned.

I’m shocked. Shocked!

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You should check the vid I posted. Pretty sad when a youtuber needs to go to another youtuber to get unbanned.

No one cares about 1 person who got falsly banned and then unbanned.

You aren’t proving your case.

You are in fact undermining your case if he got unbanned.

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