Aggrend Request: Warrior Changes

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
1

Feel free for all Warrior’s to chime in but I saw Aggrend was looking for feedback around Warrior class balancing so here is my 0.02. It sounds like rage may be normalized in the future so…

Top 2 points added from thread conversation

-Put heroic strike on a cooldown to eliminate the endless rage dump scaling (would rather have rage I can’t spend then have no rage to spend)

-Set deep wounds back to vanilla mechanics. It may be too good in SoD (credit Eastghost)

-Make the weapon racial changes so Warriors always have bonus to hit for their weapons. This will result in smoother rage generation. Constantly being rage starved makes for very choppy gameplay

-Add runes that give us abilities that deviate from the feel of our vanilla standard tool kit or are just pure % damage increases. Shockwave, Heroic Leap, Sundering Strike, Meathook, Shattering Throw, etc…mix it up and give the class exciting new buttons to push in PVE and PVP

-Balance the Warrior for higher sustained PVE damage in exchange for the massive execute phase damage. This will smooth out the huge Warrior DPS spikes in short fights

-Adjust World Buffs so they are not as favorable to spike damage. 10% damage from sayge, 5% crit for rallying cry/temple explorer, 5% crit from songflower, 3% crit from mongoose before any of our countless damage modfying runes/abilities/on use items…thats how we get 15K execute crits at level 50

-Warrior’s want to be in people’s face doing big melee damage. That’s the fantasy. Let us bring the pain in exchange for limited to no CC, Stealth or Ranged options

2 Likes
3

Aggrend just posted on twitter that he doesnt read the forums. Glhf

5 Likes
4

While likely true. Quoth twitter:

“We’ve been watching discords and forums for ideas and suggestions as we go…”

5

“Forums are often actively unhelpful at best, and downright abusive and toxic at worst.”

He doesnt read these. Too much of a child.

3 Likes
6

He may give it a look since he called for all feedback. What’s your take on Warrior balancing?

Sounds like they are deciding to nerf rage or not. What do you want in exchange?

7

he says that he doesnt like to read forums because of how toxic it gets here. leave that feedback on their twitter

1 Like
8

Warriors have 1 gimmick. They have had it since 2004.

We scale better with gear than every other class.

SoD made this problem 10x worse by exclusively giving us runes that passively increase damage and by making deep wounds a rolling dot.

In order to fix it, they need to rethink a LOT because simply nerfing our damage is going to make the class undesirable. What do warriors do better than other classes at end game?

It isn’t tanking, healing, survivability, or support.

1 Like
9

i find myself asking why I come to these forums as well lol

10

It is puzzling how we got multiple flat damage % increase runes. That makes scaling even worse.

Maybe they need to re-think Warrior runes wholistically?

11

Saltheart
Maybe they need to re-think Warrior runes wholistically?

That’s essentially my argument, except that warriors have been sold the idea that they are surviving this hardship in order to be top dps at 60. You could still alienate a lot of players by redesigning the class to be more support based or more survivable etc.

12

Then he is a bad game developer.

2 Likes
13

we have so many buttons as is. id rather they give our current buttons more use or add interesting utility/bonus effects to things. I agree with the statement about improving our hit chance and sustained pve instead of execute burst.

14

Actually an interesting idea. Bonus effects for using abilies or combinations of abilities in sequence

15

Mynta
I agree with the statement about improving our hit chance and sustained pve instead of execute burst.

Warriors don’t just have execute burst. There are some important things to consider about warrior dps:

  1. Heroic strike removes DW miss penalty so we don’t need hit on gear
  2. Deep wounds double-dips with all damage multipliers. If you have 200% damage increase from buffs, your deep wounds does 200% weapon avg damage * 200% multiplier
  3. our crits are already 20% bigger
  4. we get more crit from agility than other melee classes

This means we scale with gear FAR better than other classes at all phases of the fight.

16

Carebear dev makes carebear games. Imagine soliciting feedback from Twitter. lol

Only likes it because he can create his own personal echo chamber. Soft boy.

2 Likes
17

If they normalize threat, this is a dead game and a completely failed experiment.

Oh wait, it already was. Gg!

18

I mean if you look at sod, this was apparent already.

19

This depends on what you are refering to PvP? Or PVE?

PvP damage is absolutely stupid. It doesn’t FEEL like im playing a warrior when i get globaled in 2 seconds from instant cast caster crits for 2k when I have 4k HP, but when I get on them my damage is mid solo and to get WF is like pulling teeth. Not to mention that everytime I get a dps burst chain from crits, out comes bubble, dispersion, Sac, deterrence and every other defensive. Warriors need flat damage reduction in PvP and the melee damage need to penetrate armor (because now every class except for warriors damage is not mitigated by armor.

In PvE, or DPS is fine, we need help with threat generation while tanking and once again slight damage reduction.

2 Likes
20

They could have done anything with warriors, elemental damage weapons, bleeds, make them hulking one shot machines in melee, fulfill the long requested blade master hero class request, give us ignore pain damage reduction based on the amount of rage we have. They could have gotten REALLY creative since SoD was designed on “making everything good.” Instead we got to be part of a burst meta in which we are the only class that by design cant do up front burst.

Over all, warriors have felt pretty disappointing, considering the ideas I had for the class.

21

Thank God he’s chosen the high ground of Twitter.

3 Likes