After so many years, High Elf* time!

You are wrong :expressionless:
„ At some point prior to the blood elves’ assault on Tempest Keep, Velen made a cryptic prophecy concerning the redemption of a people cursed by blood.“

It was Velen‘s prophecy … A‘dal didn’t tell him :joy:

No one makes prophecies, they receive and discern them. Velen did what was prophesized, he did not personally create it.

Which further proves my point that it was all about redeeming the Blood elves, not about winning the war against the legion.

Baby steps.

The biggest problem is that if they split it into another Allied Race, then they’ve got to take customization options away from Void Elves now.

Their best bet is to roll it into a singular High Elf and Void Elf faction with another name at this point.

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Roll out 10.x as if 8.x and beyond never happened and start over…

My arguments are from source and proving you at every point wrong … … Keep it up … you can write your own lore here .
Gz :joy:

That’s by your definition, not by everyone’s.

Void Elves being added to the game all but ensured an Alliance race named “High Elf” will never be added. Especially since Blizzard seems to have moved away from adding derivative allied races and instead adding those derivative options as customization.

It is clear that Blizzard intends for Alliance players to have their “High Elf” experience through Void Elves via customization, just like they intend for them to have their “Wildhammer” experience through Dwarves via customization, and just as they intend for Horde players to have their “Farraki” experience through Trolls via customization, etc.

You’re entitled to your opinion that it isn’t a “High Elf Victory”, but everyone else is entitled to their opinion, even if it runs contrary to yours.

I for one am happy with the options, whether I RP as a High Elf, or a new Void Elf recruit following a path similar to Alleria’s. My origin story is my own, and now I have the visual tools to realize it.

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Your argument doesn’t prove anything besides the fact that Velen received a prophecy though? Which means he did exactly as I said, carried out a prophecy he was given. Whether that prophecy was given to him by A’dal, or the light itself is of little consequence to the conversation at hand. That the only one anyone should be thanking is M’uru, the one who actually sacrificed himself.

And considering you just previously said it had nothing to do with the Blood elves redemption, and only related to the legions’ defeat tells me you weren’t speaking from any sources at all.

I’m wondering why this is even up for debate any longer, Danuser already came forward and said these new customizations were meant for players to choose their race’s background, regardless of what name the Quest text gives them. Heck they even referred to it as “high elf customization” so that’s pretty much a nail in the coffin right there.

But honestly, if their intention was to just make Void elves look like Blood elf clones they should have just made Blood elf neutral, since any reason a player might have chosen to play Blood elf from an aesthetic prospective has already been thrown out the window. The void aspect seems to have already been completely thrown out the window at this point anyway.

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Void forged goblins with tusks

So lore be damned, and Blizzard once again painting itself into a corner is fine so long as you get to rp. Got it.

Why not just add every model and every skin to every race. Identify with whatever you want no matter what. SMH…

High Elves exist and are part of the Alliance. They have been since Vanilla. So not really sure what you mean by this?

The slippery slope argument that this is going to lead the two factions to being the same is absurd.

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Well there are Alliance High Elf Wayfarers and defecting Silvermoon Scholars in Telogrus. Is it so “lore damning” to have those customization options to represent your character as one of those NPC’s joining the Ren’dorei?

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Bro you’re Blood Elf cosplayer yourself, your entire existence comes out of pity, why are you against this? Take what you can get and stop complaining.

Once you open the flood gates to one customization, it never ends. This slippery slope has already been tread. Yes. It is lore “damning” to break immersion in order to allow a select minority fantasize if you want to get technical about it. But it’s more than that. It’s about Blizz painting themselves in to a corner in regards to potential future content.

A Void elf is a void elf, it’s not an elf that’s being role-played on its journey to becoming a Void-elf. Next we’ll have red skinned Draenei running around.

WTH are you even talking about? Contribute something to the conversation please.

High mountain mechno lighforged zandalari gnomes.

Tusks plus horns plus sprocket arms, top that

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And, what?

Teenage mutant ninja Azshari Fel infused undead Tortolan.

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Making Blood Elves neutral would have been a far more drastic decision than giving the Alliance their own Thalassian race. Consider that if Blood Elves were made neutral, that would have left things uneven, and an Alliance race would also have to have gone neutral for parity. I don’t think Horde players would have been any happier had things gone that way.

The Silver Covenant forces at Suramar were the perfect seed for Alliance High Elves to have been added as an allied race. Far more organic a choice than making up an entirely new race with no history or presence in the expansion. But the “rule of cool” made Void Elves (as presented at launch) win out over simply answering a 16 year old request.

I think Blizzard realized that and has been slowly trying to answer that request as best they can given that Void Elves being added to the game can’t be undone (and honestly I’m glad for that because I like a lot of aspects of Void Elves and the potential I see for them).

What I’d like to see going forward is for Blizzard to start developing the Void Elf story as the future of those High Elves who stayed with the Alliance. Not necessarily to turn them all into blue elves with tentacle hair, but have them following a path akin to Alleria’s and have all the Alliance allied High Elf NPC’s start using Void Elf hairstyles (with the High Elf skin & hair customization options) so that there’s more of a visual connection between the NPC’s and the player Void Elves. That way you can go full dive into the void aesthetic but still see some connection to the High Elves they once were (referring to the High Elf Wayfarers in Telogrus).

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I would mind seeing Man’ari Eredar as a Horde allied race >_>

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Many rant about how ridiculous the story and lore destruction is in WoW - if they did something that … I dunno how to express how silly it would be - Id tear out what hair I have left.

A Void Elf is not a High Elf. A Blood Elf is not a High Elf. The only reason I can see for wanting a High Elf is the RP, and how can you RP a race as High Elf that isnt High Elf?