After going back, I did not hate the Shadowlands content

Let me explain something about corporate leaders which it appears you do not understand. I spend my entire career working for corporate leaders. Corporate leaders never express their opinion publicly. What they do is form a “company line” (i.e. what we are going to say about this), learn that “company line” and that is what they say in any public interview.

And if it happens to be what they believe personally? Oh well, so much the better.

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I saw first hand how much SL was hated at the time. By the vast majority of players. You couldn’t look at anything related to wow without players hating on SL.

I don’t care what you say. SL was a poorly received expansion that pushed players away. Fact.

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Now you’re just gaslighting. Even these forums don’t represent the “vast majority” of players. You saw a small sample of players who hated it. Did you know that people who hate something are MUCH MORE likely to complain than people who are happy with something?

Oh, it wasn’t “just the forums”. It was everywhere. There was nothing positive being said about SL anywhere.

Did you know enough people disliked SL and left that Blizzard shifted their design philosophy? Do we have infinite grind borrowed power anymore? Do we have “”“meaningful choice”“” covenant type content anymore? No because the majority hated it.

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How? Out of millions of players only a few thousand enter notes in the forums and even then not all of them hated Shadowlands. How do you know what the others felt?

Those that did enter notes against SL formed an echo chamber generating tens of thousands of notes but that was the same people complaining over and over again.

And for those that did hate Shadowlands, fine that was their opinion. There were others, including me, that liked the expansion. By the way, the majority kept playing.

The delusion you live in is honestly fascinating.

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The end of the expansion sucked no doubt. Despite that and no classic to prop up numbers, SL still had worse sub retention which is kinda crazy. SL was objectively the worst expansion. WOD maybe a close second.

Just having stuff to do doesn’t make an expansion good when most of that stuff sucked and the story absolutely trashes everyone’s fav favorite story.

Anyways. I’m out lol. Peace

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I played SL for just 12 days and hated every moment. If I go back to that content it just reminds me how much I detested it. It’s permanently poisoned in my mind. The best thing they could do in my mind is amputate it from the game and burn the source files.

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as a new player shadowlands nearly made me quit the game for good.
it was that bad. the funny thing is that i played sl more than df, and prolly way more than tww.
but hey if u like it cool on u lol.

I’m still so perplexed over how offended they are over the concept something enjoyed objectively sucked

I watched Waterworld, Waterworld flopped hard and was objectively not a great movie

I still kinda liked it, doesn’t mean it didn’t suck lol

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Exactly. I love the game Dante’s Inferno. It didn’t get great reviews. Most people didn’t care for it, I accept that and still like it.

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I enjoyed Shadowlands more than Dragonflight as well.

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I didn’t enjoy any covenant sanctum activities, and I didn’t really do m+ or raid, so for me SL was pretty bland day to day. Torghast was fun first few times, but became grindy too fast. I wanted to PvP, but the item level disparity was also bad.

I did like Ardenweald zone and covenant though. The animal spirit transformation concept was my favourite thing, which was weird, because I never really liked druid as a class. I guess it’s the fact that you choose one alternative form as opposed to having an army knife of forms to change into based on situation. I wish they expanded on that.

Cognitive Dissonance: Why People Defend What They Love Despite Negative Reception

Definition:
Cognitive dissonance is the psychological discomfort that occurs when a person holds two conflicting beliefs, attitudes, or pieces of information at the same time. To reduce this discomfort, people often rationalize or alter their perception of reality.

How It Applies to Defending Bad Media

When someone enjoys a movie, game, book, or show that is widely panned, they may experience dissonance:

  • Belief 1: “I love this thing. It’s great.”
  • Belief 2: “Most people say this thing is bad.”

These conflicting thoughts create mental discomfort because they imply that either:

  • They have bad taste (which is hard to accept).
  • The majority is wrong (which is easier to believe).

To reduce this discomfort, the person may:

Common Coping Strategies

  1. Dismissing the Majority Opinion
  • “Critics don’t know what they’re talking about.”
  • “People only hate it because it’s trendy to hate things.”
  • “Casual fans just don’t understand it like I do.”
  1. Reinterpreting the Criticism
  • “They didn’t ‘get’ what the creators were going for.”
  • “It was ahead of its time, people will appreciate it later.”
  • “It wasn’t bad, it was just misunderstood.”
  1. Downplaying the Flaws
  • “Yeah, it had problems, but all media does.”
  • “It’s bad in a fun way, so that makes it good.”
  • “It’s not supposed to be high art, it’s just entertainment!”
  1. Attacking the Critics
  • “They’re biased.”
  • “They just wanted to hate it from the start.”
  • “They don’t understand the source material.”
  1. Seeking Like-Minded Support
  • Finding online communities that reinforce their view.
  • Engaging in “groupthink,” where dissenting opinions are ignored.
  • Creating narratives that paint critics as “haters” or “toxic.”

Real-World Examples

  • Movies: Fans of The Room (2003) insist it’s a misunderstood masterpiece rather than a poorly made film.
  • Video Games: Cyberpunk 2077 defenders initially claimed critics exaggerated its flaws.
  • TV Shows: Game of Thrones Season 8 defenders argue that fans were just too demanding.

Why Cognitive Dissonance Is Powerful

It’s emotionally easier to defend something than to admit it has serious flaws. If someone has spent time, money, or emotional energy on something, admitting it’s bad might feel like admitting they made a mistake—or worse, that their judgment is flawed.

Lol. Nice chatgpt. I feel so pegged now. Now do one on mob mentality.

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I would rather be fired out of a cannon into the Sun with airpods that play nothing but the sound of people merging lanes in traffic without using blinkers that have infinite battery life than deal with a single second of Pouty Anduin / “Totally Saveable” Sylvannas.

It’s literally you so lol.

Defensive Thinking (Ego Protection)

  • Admitting they were wrong means accepting they misjudged something.
  • Some people take criticism of a thing they love as a personal attack and react defensively.

Sounds familiar.
:dracthyr_crylaugh:

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I liked Shadowlands FAR better after I leveled through Dragonflight, and then went back to Shadowlands. I’m not a fan of having to follow Blizz’s method of starting the main quest line.

I recall that while I was leveling my alts through, one at a time, not too long ago (before TWW), it was VERY crowded in SL - Bastion!

Or it could be you? You came in guns firing saying “SL bad’! SL bad!” In classic massive overreaction mode to an opinion you didn’t like. Defense mechanisms go both ways.

Perhaps you regret that you missed a good expansion because some online youtubers said it was awful? And you followed the stampede to unsub as fast as possible.

Don’t worry, you can still go back and play it. You didn’t miss out TOO much.

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Many of us were here. I do have to thank SL for one thing, it absolutely broke my wow addiction. I “hate played” most all of BFA even though I didn’t have much fun. SL completely broke me and I was full ready to quit and never play wow again.

Now I pop in when I feel like it and if becomes not fun for me, I just leave. So thanks SL for almost fully pushing me away from wow.