I’m here to let you know MM is still complete garbage in PVP. Why is my average aim shot dmg 15k vs plate? its a 2.5 second cast. Aim shot still hits like a wet noodle outside of Crits/careful aim.
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So what your saying is you are bad and dont know how to play.
With the right traits and enchants you can fire off aimed shot faster than the gcd. But yeah stand in front of a warrior and hard cast it.
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Thank you for saying this, I’ve just unsubbed. There’s no point in playing this game when it’s clear Blizzard doesn’t care about ranged classes.
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ya my rating clearly shows how “bad” i am. I must be a 2700+ hunter who knows nothing about pvp. we should all ask ruzaki to show us how its done in rated pvp.
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Not just ranged classes. Its across the board regarding class balance / tuning. I don’t understand why there is such a deficit between classes/specs. While I wish I could quote some statistics I think its pretty damn fair to say that something serious has disrupted their capacity to keep things even remotely fair this go around.
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I wouldn’t say it’s complete garbage, but I don’t think it’s good either. There’s no flow to it either which is bleh. Steady Shot conc duration for instance, this shot barely has a reason in most of my rotation.
It’s ok, however when you consider Boomies are running around with longer range, constant AOE, and constant instant starsurges that dwarf aimed crits, it’s hard to wonder if Boomie isn’t just stupid overtuned or if MM is still a tier 5 spec.
I’ve made it work, and will continue, but every match is an uphill battle even comps I feel like Hunters should do well against.
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Honestly MM only feels good during trueshot with stack unerring. At higher ratings most teams just line me or cc me. Mm just feels like you have to work twice as hard as other specs to accomplish the same thing. Mm is still a squishy class that needs to continuously kite to stay alive yet blizzard also has decided to make aim shot a stationary long cast time and gate all of our damage behind it. You use disengage to get away plant your feet for a ais and now melee have gotten back on you.
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Unfortunately, ranged classes are more fun, while less effective (for the most part), while melee is boring and more effective.
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I’m also pretty sure some of our abilities are still stealth nerfd in PvP from the pre patch days of double tap one shorting people. Because my numbers out side of arena seem much better than in the arena.
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Have you tried to pressure a healer as mm. Let me tell you is AMAZ…jk jk.
Aimed takes so long to cast that when i see the 15ish k pop out i want to throw my keyboard into my monitor. I had big hopes for new RF builds this patch. man i wanted those red laser gun builds. but its still trash
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Ya the nerfed the traits to the ground before we even got them feelsbadman. Surging shots was our only new “cool” trait to look foward to and they nerf it on ptr and then hotfix nerf it by 50% in pvp day of release.
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This is the only Application for Marks in PVP: (the fact that they nerfed sniper shot for no reason is ridiculous)
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I really feel like to play MM is to play a gimmick. And the gimmick of steady aim is gone now. The spec has no flow to it. No clear feel for what i should press next.
Usually this kind of beating from blizz it to ele shaman. I guess they got a new red headed stepchild to flog.
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1st thet destroy suv by turning it into a melee spec now they are ruining mm. Gotten to a point where i wanna play another class but id lose so much progress
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It didn’t used to be that way. Hunters and mages were easily the most fun classes to play for a LONG time.
Then they got pruned to garbage. Miss my aspects and killshot
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they need to Remove Careful aim and just straight buff aim shot to always hit hard. Then replace careful aim with Kill shot. there fixed MM for you blizz.
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i concur. Wth happened to kill shot. That ability was so fun. In the age of everyone gets something that others have “aka homogenization”. Why is warrior still the only class with a true execute ability? If anyone fits that niche it would be mm hunter tbh?
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Agreed. Also Shay, does the new steady shot increasing Conc Shot duration feel like buttcheeks to you too? I pretty much have to force myself to use it, and even when I use it for that purpose I have to shoehorn it into the rotation.
Also came back to admit I was wrong. Getting up to about 2600 now and MM is really getting awful. I feel like I’m just pumping, never missing globals, even getting ideal amounts of shots off during Trueshot in the traps and Boom/Dh/Dks/Warriors/Eles/Spriests/Locks/Rogues etc are absolutely smashing my damage.
Can’t even play the peekaboo game against Boomkin now because not only do they now have a longer range than us, but more access to harder hitting instant casts so I’m baited into literally being in the open with them or having to chase them.
I feel like they could make every single one of our shots instant cast and it wouldn’t be OP at all.
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Ya the steady shot to refresh concussive feels bad to me just because steady is something not needed to be used often in the rotation. I would of loved if it was arcane shot that refresh conc even if it was for like 1 sec per a shot.
Our damage feels like a joke vs plate. Ive had fury warriors and unholy dks just train my healer while i free casted into them whole game and couldnt even get close to killing.
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