I plan on playing an Affliction Warlock. Would this be a good build?
http s://classicdb.ch/?talent#IV0iARboVobZxx0xM
If no, what would you suggest?
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Edit: Why are we not allowed to have links in threads?
You’ll need a masters in these forum to do that. Read 10 million posts, study hard and you’re gtg.
There’s a debuff limit of 16 IIRC. You can’t be affliction in raids unfortunately.
I raided as affliction for the last 6 months or so of Vanilla, so that’s not quite true.
I don’t remember my exact spec, but it was basically an SM / Ruin spec with a little variation.
That’s well over a year from now. I’m pretty sure he means Classic launch.
Affliction = Shadow Mastery /Ruin build. You will only spam Shadowbolts and one of you will be lucky enough to weave in Curse of Elements.
I’m not sure what difference that is going to make really. They are going with 1.12 from the start. They aren’t progressing it through the patches. Yes, they are doing six phases to release certain content on a timetable like battlegrounds, etc., but it will be 1.12 from the very beginning.
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While you will be spamming shadowbolts a lot, there is more to it than that. People complained so much about the affliction rotation being too hard that Blizzard nerfed the tree in BC. I honestly hated that.
There’s a debuff limit. An affliction warlock would chew up your debuff spots and get a swift /gkick.
But you said you won’t raid as affliction, which is false. I did it back then.
To the OP: Do yourself a favor and find a guild who knows what they are doing and isn’t obsessed with min/maxing. That’s my advice to you.
If you’re going to raid as Affliction, you’re going to want to pick up Ruin too. If you’re just farming, dots can work fine but most guilds will only let 1 warlock put up just 1 corruption per boss.
There’s 2 common specs, one is called SM/Ruin which is the farm-friendly spec. This does less dps if you cannot use corruption though.
The other spec is one that picks up Demonic sacrifice and you truly become a Shadow Bolt spam turret after sacrificing a succubus.
Personally, SM/Ruin is probably the way to go. I wouldn’t worry about improved healthstones as SM/Ruin. Dark Pact is kind of good but not better than Ruin atleast in a raiding environment.
You did it when the debuff cap wasn’t in place. Blizzard has specifically said that the debuff cap will be implemented for the raids it existed in Vanilla. Debuff spots are specifically reserved for debuffs like Curse of Elements, Hunter’s Mark, etc.
You are talking about a time where there was no cap and you could optimally raid in Affliction.
It’s not even min-maxing. Pure affliction is just a waste of space. CoA and Corruption don’t do nearly enough damage to justify having them on a boss, and will constantly be knocked off anyway by deep wounds.
The GCDs are also wasted on corruption. Another shadowbolt would have done more damage.
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She originally stated that she raided during the last 6 months of vanilla as a variation of SM/Ruin, which is Aff-heavy, and there most certainly was a debuff cap then. I’m not sure why you’re arguing so forcefully here when in the end, it’s the RL’s decision who gets priority on debuff slots.
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And 10 times out of 10 it won’t be Corruption or Curse of Agony.
I guess it was only raised to 40 in BC, my mistake. My point remains.
Generally, the SM/Ruin locks are there for the imp buff, yes. But I don’t think you can say “10 times out of 10” for every RL.
Sure, there’s going to be clown RL’s that think you can ignore the debuff limit, but it’s a raid mechanic.
Play whichever build you want to play. Warlocks tree has a lot of flexibility for all kind of situations.
I personally like this one https ://classicdb.ch/?talent#IE0iV0boVobghzbx
It’s fine pre raid and UBRS if you’re running with a voidwalker and taunt off for the dark pact. Don’t have to drink at all since you’re draining walker’s mana, and voidwalker delivers nice chunk of the dps. It’s also decent for staying alive when soloing Mara and stuff.
The build I’m showing is not allowed for raiding most likely, but I like it otherwise. Just preferences.
P.s. probably one of the only builds that will gain you higher HP in exchange for Mana, if you have a ton invested in +spell power or +shadow damage.
That’s abit false.
You had 2 sorts of warlocks in raid during TBC, 1 applied dots while spamming Shadowbolt and specced into Imp CoS, the other was a shadowbolt spamming spec.
It wasn’t that they nerfed affliction (arguably they made it harder by adding UA) players discovered that dot’s scaled like trash in raid.
I hate it how everyone always judges talent builds based off of raiding. maybe op just wanted to farm solo or 5 mans or pvp?
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