Tinytusk, my Warlock build will have some small variations, because I am seriously thinking of Improved Firebolt for MACHINE GUN IMP.
I like making builds that involve little to no respeccing for farming, instances, and PvP. Mainly because unless you’re the raid tank, your guild will NOT pay you to respec.
You seen this then?
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http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-2HDV6bYA
I am trying to remember what spec I raided on my warlock with. Maybe Demonic Sacrifice/Ruin? Looking at the talents I am reminded of how freaking weird and janky the old talent trees often were for optimal specs.
Yeah but those same trees would often let you do some rather interesting stuff while leveling or solo play. Mileage varied on different trees and classes though.
What’s the debuff limit on your pserver? Also, super hardcore guilds won’t want an affliction probably. Regular raiding guilds may not care. When it comes time to kill Garr I don’t care what spec you are as long as you can keep banish up.
I don’t play on private servers. My experience was when Vanilla was live.
I raided as an SM / Ruin spec with a little variation for about the last 6 months of Vanilla as I said. And no, my guild wasn’t super hardcore but was serious about raiding. We were not the top guild on the server but did pretty good all in all. We cleared MC, Ony, ZG, some AQ20, did a little AQ40 and was almost done in BWL when BC launched. We did not make it to Naxx.
I’m glad I wasn’t in a super hardcore min / max guild because at least we had fun while raiding and our GM, who was also the raid leader, was very cool about letting players play what many here say aren’t viable specs in raids. We had a balance druid, pally off-tank, shadow priest and others on our raid team.
Now I’m sure many here will laugh or whatever, but I would rather be in a guild like that progressing in raids (even if slower), with a cool group of people who let people play what they enjoy as opposed to a guild who forces people into something they don’t.
I also did quite a bit of pvp back then on my warlock and our warlock class leader gave me some tips to just change a few talent points around to maximize my dps as affliction. Our warlock class leader was also affliction spec, So I changed a few points around and still got to raid as the spec I enjoyed.
And this is the warlock I raided as affliction on in Vanilla and in BC until I quit.
Ahh so this time around we know affliction isn’t that great… so it’s going to be tough finding a progression guild that will let you affliction because debuff limits. If you plan on being casual you’ll probably be fine.
Also, min/max guilds have tons of fun. It may not be fun for you but its fun for those of us who play that way.
The biggest thing to realize is the amount of guilds enforcing min/max will probably only be the top 3 or so guilds on your server. This, of course, depends on how many servers they launch and how much the pserver community spreads out. There are guilds on pservers that don’t min/max. I was in a guild where the gm and most of the raid team had never played vanilla before. There are always new players and new guilds starting WoW and they don’t care so much about min/max as those of us who have played pservers all these years. I’m sure you will find the right place for your play style.
I don’t want to be in a min/max guild because I prefer being in the type of guild I was very fortunate in being in back during Vanilla. I knew people who were in those types of guilds back then and they hated it. Now, I’m not saying all of those guilds are like the ones some of my friends were in, but it sure made me appreciate my non min/max guild even more hearing their stories.
If I can’t play what I enjoy in a game, for me, there isn’t any point in playing. Maybe affliction isn’t optimal, but you can raid as it in Vanilla.
And honestly I probably won’t be raiding at all this time around in Classic. Real life has me way too busy for raiding these days. Back then, I had way too much free time on my hands. Our guild did start becoming more hardcore in BC and while it was still a great group of people, some of the fun was taken out of it when they started trying to be top guild on the server. Very hardcore raiding isn’t for me. It felt like a second job and I started hating it honestly. I found myself telling family and friends that I couldn’t go out because I had a raid lol. It seemed so normal to me at the time. ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
I of course realize now, that really wasn’t normal to be so hardcore into playing a game that you neglect family and friends.
I quit for that reason and others, them changing the class I loved for one. These days I am a casual gamer and I prefer it that way honestly. I get my enjoyment out of questing, leveling, doing professions, PvP, etc. Even though I more than likely won’t be raiding in Classic, there is lots I look forward to doing that will keep me busy for a long time to come.
I like to be the best. Inefficiency kills me. I was in a non hardcore guild in vanilla and that was fine. In bc i started going hardcore.
On pservers I was in a non hardcore guild but I got tired of wiping over and over because the raid lead who was the gms husband wouldn’t listen when I tried to tell him the better strategy. They wouldn’t listen when I explained why we were failing. He just doubled down and said this is the strategy I explained and this is how we’re doing it.
That doesn’t fly with me. I told them I would give advice where I thought they needed it and I’d keep my mouth shut and not ruin the experience for them most of the time. 3-4 wipes in it’s time to realize your strat isn’t working and listen to the guy who has farmed this boss forever. I still don’t know if they downed ony that day. I’ve not logged onto that character since. A new pserver launched and I started over. The race to 60 and server firsts is so much fun for me.
We’re getting 1.12.
Easy mode raids. For the first year. Raid in whatever spec you want.
They fine.
Any raid leader with an IQ in the upper half of the double digits won’t let you put CoA on boss. It isn’t a matter of “opinions” or anything. Vanilla is a solved game. Optimized play doesn’t have CoA on bosses. Sunder Armor, Hunter’s Mark, and even Shadow Word: Pain (if you bring an SPriest to buff warlocks) are way more important. What is next? You going to bring an Aff Lock and a cat druid? There go almost HALF your debuff slots right there.
I’m not trying to argue in favor of this. Personally, I plan to run DS/Ruin (unless my own RL orders me to be the imp buff bot, in which case I’ll shut up and do as I’m told). The only thing I am saying is that yes, somewhere out there will be a RL who will let a lock run an Aff-heavy build in raids. You know this is true. It will happen. Take it up with that raid leader should you hear of it.