Affliction needs help

This spec feels really underwhelming compared to any other spec I’ve seen played. DoTs are just not doing damage and the soul shard spenders feel horrible.

The only viable build is Wither build and it feels pretty bad.
Soul harvester is not even worth playing because its been nerfed so heavily and blizzard forgot about it.
Players are still dispelling UA on cooldown with no penalty.

I was really hoping to see these buffs on the 17th actually do something. It didnt really do much at all.

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I am actually wondering if they even went through with the class changes.. Cause it really seems like not a lot changed.

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Does the haunt/shadowbolt combo on Harvester not move healthbars at all? I haven’t seen affliction to know.

The issue is either that the balance changes weren’t strong enough to move the needle, or they WERE strong enough in a vacuum… But then essentially cancelled out by the changes that would have affected their opponents.

Personally, I did notice a slight increase of damage overall on my lock. The OP is right though, UA backlash damage is STILL not a threat to healers. This is a compounding problem because UA doesn’t make a healer hesitate to dispel, then the win condition to beating an aff lock will always be just chain dispel so they never get damage out.

Which has been Aff’s BIGGEST problem. If you can’t keep any dots on the target, then you can’t use Dark Harvest, which is supposed to be our big dam dealer (spoiler: it really isn’t, and it wasn’t even before the nerf).

i think the dispel is being addressed in the .5 patch but its surely annoying to wait till then

UAs backlash damage was increased 25% on Tuesday, as part of the March 17th class tuning. The 25% was not near enough to make healers stop and think about dispelling it.

Affliction needs a proper designer.

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They had it in mop and everyone cried.

Not a problem of affliction

Affliction DOT DMG is not existant.

Last expansion my UA hit for up to 1.8mil on a crit as a tick which is roughly 9% of someones HP.
ONE tick - 9%

Now we have entire UA do 40k if we lucky(same 9%).

Modifiers on Affilock are awful and I dont think dispell protection WILL NOT help at all.
if DOTs do not do threatening damage to dispell it will not healers to force dispels. Currently the damage is sooo lock that it probably not even worth dispelling.

(Agony does 25k, Corruption 32k and UA aroun 28k for tooltip)
UA Dispell does around 200k dmg and 4 sec silence.

Problem with Affi is damage is absolutely attrocious… again…

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I feel like the idea of aff is just super outdated. I think it needs to have significantly easier to apply/ less dots. It should have 1 instant cast dot and then ua. With a cd to insta apply ua. Then haunt to significantly increase dot damage for a bit. Then shadow bolt and maybe one more non dot damage button. Full on dispellable dot specs don’t really work anymore.

The spec literally hasnt been the same since the wod pruning and changes

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They’re soothing the DKs in their class forums about their nerfs, absolutely zip about affliction

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I’m just convinced Blizzard doesn’t know how to balance DoT based classes at this point.

Feral got a buff and it was already hitting pretty hard.

No wonder, they reworked DK from the scratch, and affli got minor rework.
Their priorities set straight.

Yes they’re doing additional backlash tuning for stacked uas in the .5 patch

The amount of damage buffs affliction needs to be viable are numbers Blizzard would never publish.

Also constantly shard starved. Blizzard is too preoccupied with what the soul shard spender should be to realize aff would be better off without it at all.

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No it’s ok 15% buff will fix it.. haaaaa…

ha…ha….

Because affliction doesn’t need #'s tuning, at least that’s not what the primary need is. At this point if you simply try to tune #'s on affliction it will go straight from useless to completely toxic.

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I disagree it literally needs number tunning. Having a full row of dots on 3 people should be scary.

Part of the reason why affi was so good and fun to play in MOP was because dots did real damage and you could apply them way quicker and keep them up.

You thinking its “toxic” is a preference you have. I think hunter cleaves are toxic, like phdk, cupid and jungle but thay doesnt mean i think they shoukdnt exist and be made useless