Adjusting Tank Brann - March 11

[Snozay-area-52]

@Krovnihar-elune

Ah, so now it’s ‘I don’t really care,’ but you’ve been here arguing the whole time? Interesting. If you truly didn’t care, you wouldn’t feel the need to respond.

Killing time at work. I swear it’s hilarious refuting the same weak points by multiple
People.

@Krovnihar-elune

I can see a lot of people sharing their thoughts, some perhaps are “tantrums”, but I don’t think that’s a distinction we should make.

It’s pretty clear there are tantrums.

@Krovnihar-elune

Touched a nerve, huh? Funny how pointing out flawed reasoning suddenly turns into “you shouldn’t talk about intelligence.” If you’re feeling called out, that’s on you. At this point, you’re not debating in good faith, just moving goalposts to avoid admitting your logic is flawed. Thanks for playing

Not really. I don’t get upset over the forums. Just pointing out the obvious.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Fooler-zuljin

People were also clearing them as dps and tanks , so your point of healers needing tank brann nerfed is invalid especially as clearing as a healer still takes longer to do than a tank or dps would.

Not at 590 ilvl.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Qaccy-baelgun

I’ll concede that players with a dismissive attitude towards delves usually don’t have that same attitude towards M+ or raiding (case in point right here), but if they did I don’t see why they wouldn’t be able to clear this content at that gear level. Especially in a healer role, which is the crux of the debate here. But of course, a 590 healer in heroic would probably be considered a ‘carry’, right? Even if they’re the same skilled player that was clearing T11 delves week one?

No one is taking a 590 to a heroic raid or mplus unless they bought a carry.

590 was considered undergeared even in season 1

[Fooler-zuljin]

Yeah like a tank clearing T11 at 600 ilvl is really any different… And they will still do it faster than a healer will.

[Maghog-moonrunner]

I’m just going to stop playing heal spec, honestly. Maybe sit S2 out until the next .5 and catchup gear comes along and play “The Heroes Journey” EQ emu server. At least there you can solo things and the devs actually care.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Fooler-zuljin

Yeah like a tank clearing T11 at 600 ilvl is really any different… And they will still do it faster than a healer will.

Idk what to tell ya take it up with Blizzard.

Solo content has always favored tanks.

[Blastphemer-malfurion]

@Kaivax

simply proven to be too powerful when players hang back and just focus on healing him.

Disc priests: Am’I a joke to you?

[Avesara-stormrage]

Ok cool… so by some of the logic I’m seeing . Clearing content 25 ilvls higher than you = ok.
(I peeked at some logs for a certain someone… I see a ilvl 630 in some heroic kills!)
Delves drop 639 gear at the highest so ilvl 614 heals should be able to clear T11.

Its mostly just Champion Gear anyway. My ilvl barely moved this week.

[Fooler-zuljin]

You can’t claim 1 needs a nerf and the other is fine because that’s how it’s always been… If one requires a nerf both should be plain and simple.

[Sasushii-area-52]

Yeah honestly thinking on it the changes make even less sense…

They think healers are spending too much time healing him…

SO THEY INCREASE THE DAMAGE HE TAKES THUS REQUIRING HEALERS TO SPEND MORE TIME HEALING AND LESS DOING DPS.

Do we hear that correctly Blizzard? Your decision maker on this is a potato?

[Snozay-area-52]

@Fooler-zuljin

You can’t claim 1 needs a nerf and the other is fine because that’s how it’s always been… If one requires a nerf both should be plain and simple.

I agree with nerfing both.

[Vladinov-stormrage]

@Snozay-area-52

Because it’s only healers that were clearing them in 590 gear which is why bran was nerfed.

There are likely not a bunch of healers at 590 clearing 11s. You keep citing this as a fact because a few people said things like this on the forums. People can say anything on forums. Those who actually did were likely cheesing with mind control.

Healing Brann in an 11 at 630 ish is more of a challenge than tanking an 11 with dps Brann.

[Jhannae-bronzebeard (Jhannae)]

@Wårio-area-52

In other words FUN DETECTED

Just like with MM Hunter’s Pet. They were trying to eliminate it in PTR for 11.1 patch. Good thing, I fought for it. If not, MM Hunter would have no more Pet/s.

[Perriny-emerald-dream]

I’m honestly in the same position. I play healer and tank in another MMO but knew it was a total crap show in this game so I swerved it. Then became curious and wanted to try it out after doing some delves, getting some gear, and getting some prio down and some muscle memory. Now? Nah, shelving it and just staying on my Mage until my sub runs out. I didn’t go super hard into the healer stuff until later in the week because I wasn’t expecting this to have happened.

[Azowa-amanthul]

This feels like heavy changes and doesn’t match what has been said in previous interviews and ideals talks about in them. like stated in the past these aren’t raids or m+ it’s getting these kind of changes and it doesn’t make sense. I never reply or even post on the forums but this change is stupid enough i wanted to…

[Snozay-area-52]

@Vladinov-stormrage

There are likely not a bunch of healers at 590 clearing 11s.

There’s been multiple in this thread.

@Vladinov-stormrage

You keep citing this as a fact because a few people said things like this on the forums

Actually I saying it because blizzard nerfed bran by that much for that reason. If people weren’t doing it they wouldn’t have nerfed him so hard.

[Yossarrion-frostwolf]

Just don’t nerf his health and make him take increased damage

[Nìkto-zuljin (Nìkto)]

It’s baffling. So he essentially has two DPS specs now one just demonstrably worse than the other.

[Atulcoloaru-area-52]

wild they didnt fix him pulling the entire zone in some delves but nerfed him for no reason. No his dmg sucks as tank and he can barely survive so the delve takes like 45mins

[Wráth-kiljaeden]

For context, I am playing on a MW and a HPriest.

I am not really ignoring mechanics as I am doing interupts/stuns when I can and taking small pulls. The issue’s more stem from the AI of Brann and the actions he does/doesn’t do. He stands in bad, he pulls random mobs when I am not ready and things like that. And because he does that, he needs extra healing, and not all MW skills/heals are actually effecting Brann which becomes a challenge of having to focus more on healing rather than doing damage.

Now add in the 60% damage increase, and 20% health decrease, and still have the horrible AI. That just means it’s going to be even more healing intensive because not all the skills work and function the way they should.

While I can see some nerfs being a good, they should address the issues in order to tune better.