Addons are the same as botting

PVP Arenas
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blizzard has stomped out problematic weakauras that trivialize mechanics in PVE for close to a decade now, to the point they’ve been designing fights under the assumption you’re using weakauras

they just don’t care enough about pvp to take it into consideration that some people would genuinely fail to see some in game audio/visual queues and are okay with them being carried by stuff outside of the game

which is sad because, pvp is the only place where addons molding a better player is truly detrimental to the game

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He’s not wrong. It’s not bad enough that SLT is a 3 minute cd that you can walk out of and can die to an auto attack but sure, we also need addons that make the totems health bar take half the screen so you can’t miss the thing. It makes you wonder how good some of these top players really are when you see the level of training wheels at play.

I watched a guy earlier with literal audio playing that tells him when a cd is coming off cd and when enemies use cd’s. “Earthen Totem”, “Healing Tide”… Don’t even have to read the notifications. Dude has the addon verbally saying what to do. At what point is this stuff too much?

Remove addons and I bet you start seeing rank ones all the sudden sitting around 1800. Admittedly, I don’t use addons. Is it why I’m an 1800 player? Maybe, maybe not, who knows.

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Since it’s extremely unlikely they’ll ever disallow the use of addons in PvP, they should probably just bring all their functionality (cooldowns, DRs, etc.) into the native UI.

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never become a detective

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The information is on the screen, you can either see it or you cant.

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I’m old. Like with addons I can beat anyone. Without addons I’m 1200

Just let me customize the game so I get the info I need how and where I want it so I can spend time strategizing and processing that information not ‘loading it’

The game of staring at icons isn’t fun
The game of deciding what to do with the information is fun

Like…imagine if you had to listen for the kick sound and then mentally track seconds since it happened. Yeah that’s skill I just don’t enjoy a game where skill expression includes that

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I don’t need to be. You make the dumbest arguments. WTF does being a detective have to do with noticing the blaring issues in this video game? I see you make this comment to others about two to three times a day.

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I’m saying your ability to form a conclusion is worse than a geriatric beaver’s

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You know what the sad part is? Im probably double your age, play with zero addons, and you’re only 100 rating higher than my seasonal high. Just sit down fella. You’re making a fool of yourself. You’re likely a worse player than this old timer.

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The batter isnt supposed to know what pitch is coming, where as we should definitely be able to tell what spells people are using.

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lets get you back to bed gramps

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Yah, I know reading comprehension isn’t one of your strong sides being the geriatric beaver that you are but, I said my “season high”. That’s 1825 or so.

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the green number says otherwise

god i wish i was a beaver

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Addons are not cheating, cheating is cheating, but you go on and believe whatever you choose, don’t let me burst your bubble. For reference I don’t PVP, but use several addons to make gameplay easier for me because I’m a bit older and slower. and am developing arthritis in my hands. I guess your take would be people with disabilities should just play solitaire?

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Since you’re a little slow, I went ahead and helped you out.

h ttps://imgur.com/a/pNqwAUU

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my guy, you took a phone picture while using a computer

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solo shuffle does this to a person :sob:

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Yes. Ideally.

Even Pikaboo himself, our recent NA AWC winner thinks so. Apparently Absterge is of the same mind, if only because he thinks he can outplay people with game sense (being good historically in LAN settings). Not sure about Wizk. He strikes me as pro-addon but that’s speculation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUn-Ik4NS4

There are other prominent names in the arena / AWC scene who agree, but perhaps the people playing and winning at the highest level give the argument some ethos.

Blizzard could simply remove access to certain features in the API. They don’t have to determine what kinds of addons people are using if they don’t provide the tools and information to create said addons in the first place.

Limiting that API all of a sudden, this deep into fan-made addons and with the whole game built around it, is the real issue.

I’m all for it.

But I don’t think it will ever happen because Blizzard will never put in the effort to replace free (and probably better) work done by the community for the benefit of a controlled and equal playing field.

Probably more people will be upset by addons absence than by their presence at this point. At least that’s certainly what Blizzard thinks. Even if there’s the chance removing them will draw in some new players.

As said…

Also, easy content already exists for casual players, and Blizzard are fine with the fact that high level play (PvE and PvP both) require intense amounts of game knowledge, preparation, and configuration. That’s part of the appeal, or at least what keeps people around and interested.

There’s not really a niche for casual high level play. At least from a player retention standpoint. You’re either casual, and fine being disadvantaged, or serious and digging your teeth into every possible database, community or UI driven advantage.

I’d like for it to be different.

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Squinting at the default buff bar isn’t a skill I respect

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I’ll never understand flexing rating, but especially barely rival rating

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