LMAO. That was the funniest thing I read in a while. If that was the case then this whole thread would not be here.
if you refuse to go and gear yourself, you have no excuse when you get steamrolled. you know that players are out there with more gear, asking for brackets is just asking for them to not be in your bgs because you don’t want to invest in your toon.
if you don’t want to do that, thats fine, there is no shortage of never-pvers here. but most of them accept the fact that ilvl gaps need to be closed with above average skill and they rise to the occasion.
what you want would do nothing but cause twinking and long queue times. part of random bgs is the fact that it is random, you don’t know who will be on your team, you can’t control having low geared players on your team anymore than i can control a certain shaman from WrA capping snowfall. if you want control of your team, queue with a party or make a rated yolo or wargrame.
otherwise deal with it.
Sounds like I hit a nerve. That is what people are doing now - dealing with and gearing up. This thread is about putting ilvl requirements on random BGs and stating the reasons. Having different levels is a good idea as another way of gearing up just like doing harder dungeon levels ( regular to Mythic) or harder raids. This will be more enjoyable to all level of players - casual to elitists (raid or PvP), from people who play (and gear up) multiple toons to those that only play one or two (and gear them to the max).
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Disagree, gear on a flat level should matter less. What should matter is being able to customize your build or specialize your gear towards a specific build. Working to unlock abilities and synergies unique to your character.
IE: Being able to one shot someone is a boring power fantasy.
Being able to create a build that is unique to your character that allows you to dominate niche circumstances and work with other players using their builds = Awesome.
That being said, Blizzard being creatively bankrupt - we will only ever see flat power progression.
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Except it’s not the same thing 
if you’re doing random bgs for gear you’re doing it wrong. It’s never been a great way to gear but it’s terrible now. People play bgs for fun and to put your class to the test to learn before rated maybe.
Ilvl is not a requirement for bgs because it’s random and it’s for fun. Pve is all about scaling your power up so you can get the next gear. Not the same as random bgs.
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hardly, and what i’m telling you is that would be a bad idea. there are already ways to handle having undergeared players on your team that don’t involve segregation or exclusion.
we already have different levels:
Sub-H30 noob bracket (LFR/heroic dungeon)
Main bracket. (normal/heroic raid and mythic dungeon single digit key)
Rated.(mythic raid/10+ or higher)
it would be enjoyed by a tiny minority of players, the majority would see their queue times skyrocket and would unsub.
It is terrible now to gear up through random bgs since Blizzard removed PvP gear. BGs were fun to do and you did get honor for loses so a player could still save up for PvP gear and catch up to the players that play every day and make it a match of skill. The Raiders didn’t dominate PvP since they had to get PvP gear too. Now days you get nothing for a lost as far as gear goes. Now the casual players have to spend time grinding WQs, LRFs, etc for gear when lots of them just want to PvP after doing some questing. Now it is no fun since the Raiders can pwn in PvP now. Most people here are looking at this as everyone has time to play every day for hours, well some people don’t.
Hell no, it’s the most fun way. And I’m sorry that people feel gear matters but this just happened:
https://imgur.com/a/BnbxrBz I mean, a healer under 100k hp seems like it would be then end of the world to you people here.
It would be enjoyable to the few that haven’t already unsub. But Blizzard seems to not care about the 6 million + players that have unsub. Back when it was 12 million subscribers the queue time for both sides were even. Now days the horde have a much longer queue time than the alliance (at least on some battlegroups) which is why some of them mercenary to the alliance side. All you need is two ilvl ranges for randoms…ilvl 300 to 350 and ilvl 351 to 400+ Longer queue times will not skyrocket nor will it make people unsub. They can always mercenary to the side with less queue times. Not winning in BGs for days will make them rage quit. That I have seen quite a lot. Blizzard just messed up PvP expansions ago.
Ehhh no, it was all dependent on battlegroups then. Some had high queue times for horde, some alliance.
All Horde have higher queue times since all battlegroups are merged.
We are not talking about one player. We are talking about the majority of the team. You can carry one or two players in a 10-man BG but 1 or 2 players cannot carry 8 or 9 low gear players.
Where are you finding these teams? Haven’t seen this like, ever.
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This weekend was one of those times. It was pretty bad.
I didn’t play much this weekend, was my weekend to work. I guess thankfully?
there are 6 million factors that have lead to the decline in wow’s population that aren’t even related to the game. to put the blame on any one thing the devs have done is wrong.
once again, battlegroups are no longer a thing. you might want to understand something correctly before you go suggesting changes for it.
thats two too many.
sure they will, you are dividing an already small pool.
you can always “git gud” and stop whining about ilvl. ilvl is not the reason you lost.
“i can’t run around and drop players in under 2 seconds, pvp is broken, how am i losing to noobs, did i get worse?”
Ahh yes! We agree Inemia.
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dude bg’s are for gearing
i agree the system sucks and relies far too much on RNG, but that’s the point of random bg’s (gearing)
if any ilvl decision goes into bg’s, it should just be for matchmaking
not really, the gear handed out is all participation level stuff, if you really care about gearing you run PVE content. bgs are for having fun with the gear you obtained elsewhere.
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LOL. Nice try at trolling. Gear does matter otherwise why gear up for raids,etc? Once you gear up, skill and knowing your toon will decide who comes out the winner if you happen to get a 1-on-1 in a BG. I love those types of fight where it could have gone either way. And is very nice killing someone who is higher gear than you are. But there are people that have fun rolling over under gear players. All I’m suggesting is make it better and more fun so you can have those battles that can go either way instead of looking at your teams health and the opposing side and knowing what the out come will be.
well that’s more of what has happend with player behavior due to the bg gearing system sucking so badly in comparison
but its still supposed to be a gearing source for new players, always has been