No reason not to have brackets based on the seasons/ilevel
Season 1 bg bracket: fresh 120- 370 ilevel
Season 2 bg bracket: 371- no upper limit until season 3 hits live
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This is me all day long I get my gear by BG’s 98% of the time.
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The number crunch was worthless to begin with. When a game has been around for as long as this one has and has so much content number crunch’s and level squish’s are like using a 1 gallon bucket to hold 2 gallons of water it spills all over. Now there is a huge issue with ilvl scaling and that bleeds into both PVE and PVP and a lack of PVP gear doesn’t help.
I honestly wasn’t a fan of templates. The lack of customization kinda sucked. Like in wod/mop I played a lot of affy lock and I loved playing different haste/mastery builds. You noticed a good difference when you did.
Customization is an essential part of RPGs… I’d love something like wod back where the gear scaled. They could just tighten the scaling a tiny bit so the differences weren’t as big between the sets.
As for the op… No there doesn’t need to be an ilvl requirement 
I have 6 120s that I’ve jumped straight into PvP with. Yes you’re not strong but scaling still exists and honestly you can contribute to your games. It’s all RNG and the other team will have freshies too.
Also careful, some people claim gear doesn’t matter in random bgs at all 
it doesn’t as much as people post about on here. Plus:
even you agree. Never said you will top dmg or win all your 1v1s, but with the scaling it’s easy to contribute more than people claim on here.
The scaling sucks. Some classes do negative damage to me when they are low item level. I actually think they heal me when they hit me.
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Okay, going to make a movie where people with low item level can’t even get me under 95% health. It’s as bad as WoD except the TTK is longer, so they might get saved by their team mates.
Yea, that’s more a class problem otherwise all classes would with a low ilvl.
But I also did just fine in wod on freshi alts… I had absolutely every class at max then. There is lots classes can do with no gear.
Eh man seriously compared to past expansions it’s pretty good. And lots of classes still have lots they can contribute with no damage. Focus on cc and peels and objectives and you’ll be suprised. I have always won almost as much on my fresh alts as my mains. Not as much, but almost.
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Except win fights against better or equally skilled players with better gear.
Gear check.
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Eh honestly geared people forget to use their utility… Can’t tell you how many destro locks who literally never cast fear until someone is on them.
I win almost as many on undergeared characters as geared. There is lots you can do with no gear to win.
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ROFL a person who twinks calling for ilvl requirements for CASUAL BGs, now that’s funny! ![:joy:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/joy.png?v=6" ":joy:")
1) BGs are not raids, 2) BGs are not dungeons, 3) BGs are not rated. Seriously, go do rated if you want to dictate ilvl.
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Uhm… sure… I can easily tell when somone is geared way less then me. It’s funny to watch a rogue unstealth on me because they are trying to pick off the casters because they are so under geared and I ignore them because they aren’t even scratching me. It’s not just rogues but other classes as well. I have had times when my random group completely destroyed the other side and it took 4 all attacking me to put me down and it took them a few mins. Big difference between someone at ilvl400 vs someone at ilvl380.
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Yep, 20 item levels didn’t seem like a big issue in season one. It’s very noticeable now. Makes for a really bad BG experience more often than not.
Rated BGs aren’t even the same game as casual BGs. One can be fun the other is hardly ever fun.
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I agree with the Ilvl requirement, but make it go both ways. I despise the fact that there is no longer decent PvP gear obtainable through vendors with honour. I despise the fact that you have to do Mythics or high Rank Rated arenas in order to be useful in random PvP BG’s. I used to love the PvP side of this game until the last couple xpacks. I have pretty much ignored anything PvP related so far since resubbing.
blizz doesnt care about pvp
I like this idea. It’s fair to both sides. Only issue would be if you wanted to group with someone who had a much higher or lower ilvl.
Yeah, I am SURE, that’s the ONLY issue.
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Blizz did something similar in Legion with honor talents.