Add death knights to TBC

[Frosto-faerlina]

You’ve got some good opinions. There are some I disagree with, as obviously you disagree with some of mine. That’s all fine, and I’d sort of like to respond to everything, but at the same time, most of it is a little off-topic.

However, I think you’ve done a great job of identifying a problem:

@Fasc-atiesh

At a cost, it eliminates the need to seek out ramping cost retraining for routine and frequent spec changes between two explicit setups. The former Blizzard assumption was that specs were semi-set in stone strategic choices that were discouraged from swapping repeatedly, so the assumption by Blizzard was that if you wanted to do both PvE and PvP, you had better pick a hybridized set of talents and stick with it. This assumption was proven to be unequivocally poor as players preferred instead of to be ideally specialized for whatever content they did and would either stick to one area of play nearly exclusively (the majority of players) or outright ignore the cost of swapping and just swap very regularly (the minority of players). In neither case do you have people making strategic decisions about the talents themselves, as intended, but rather people were refusing to compromise their best performance.

This is why GC noted in his interview with Neth (who originally posted about talents being strategic decisions) that the old talent system was simply being circumvented, and that no amount of endless testing/tweaking/retuning was going to make it such that people would stop seeking out the inevitable best setups for respective roles or game modes.

It solves the problem of an archaic system that doesn’t actually do its intended job.

And we can look at the several iterations of change that talenting has gone through. In Retail, you can join a dungeon group, and then respec without cost, while in that dungeon.

Dual spec partially solves the problem you’ve described, while solving it more for some playstyles than for others.

Indeed though, the same could be said for many other features that are introduced in later expansions.

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In any case, I’m not sure we’re going to get anywhere with our conversation here. It seems to come down to subjective preference for either staying truer to the original game and design decisions or retrofitting future design decisions onto older content.