The amount of boosted 70s with zero gear trying to get into pug raids is staggering, and city gear checks are extra effort and not a perfect solution. Seriously, why can you enter a raid with 58 greens if you got boosted 70 thru slave pens?
The only thing that causes is 1. bad players hurting quality of raiding (big impact of endgame activities) and 2. Supporting the Pay to Win GDKP raids as most people turn a blindeye and KNOW the guy bidding 300k on a warglaive did not get that gold legitimately.
There should be a mininum gear/ilevel requirement to zone into a raids unless it is a full guild run. The min level should be around normal dungeon/66+ questing gear ilvl which is a decent mininum of a legimate fresh 70, which in turn wouldn’t prevent real new players (not boosted) from playing.
If people are allowing other raiders into their raid with LvL 58 greens and not LvL 70 items, then either they just don’t care, they’re a friend of the organiser or the content is so easy that even if they’re in low level greens that it just doesn’t matter.
This is the main reason why I’m agaisnt the boost/boosting, leveling allows you to get familliar with your class and boosting completely negates that making you have no idea what your rotation should be, what spell to use in certain situations and what talents to use.
Now this doesn’t apply to people that have played those classes before but it wasn’t directed at those people as I assume most boosters would boost a class that they’ve never played before. Look at the Death Knight, it’s front loaded with all its abilities as soon as you create it which is why I’m glad that there’s training dummies in WotLK, i’m gonna spend at least an hour at a training dummy learning Death Knight because of how front loaded it is.
Okay, It is possible to have made 300k gold “legitimately” and I use " " because the only real way is either selling boosts for the entirity of Classic and TBCC or running GDKP’s for the same time. Now that’s not a lot of people but it’s still a possibility and only to the extent where 300k is pretty much all their gold.
Do GDKP’s incite RMT? To a degree yes but to what degree though I’m not sure, I know that not everyone who GDKP’s buys gold but the people dropping extreme numbers like 300k most likely have. 10k gold isn’t really that much for someone who GDKP’s all the time, the splits in TBC are pretty big mainly because of the reduced raid size and since the bids have only increased since Classic, It just gives everyone more gold. But if you have someone constantly dropping 100k’s of gold then I think it’d be obvious to everyone that they RMT.
They’d just buy BoE’s which I guess is what you want, I think getting dungeon blues at least on my server is hard. Sure some dungeons are being run but not the ones I’d like for gearing a fresh character. The wait for getting into a dungeon is also getting more and more with the need of doing them becoming less and less, people have the character they want to play and have done the dungeons or have started raiding and so they just don’t enter dungeons.
Even I don’t do them anymore because there just isn’t a need to, I did in classic but that was for rep and I’m exalted with nearly every Outland faction and the ones I’m not aren’t linked to any dungeons. Of course I’d do one if a guildie asks me though.
I think it’s up to the player running the raid to vet their raiders, I don’t know if there’s an addon for it but even if there isn’t Blizzard should’ve added the Armoury in Classic, would make vetting a lot easier.
Gear checks are fine. No one is forcing you to bring under geared players to your raids. Don’t expect Blizzard to hold your hand every step of the way.
Oh noooooo. Not extra effort!!! If you care that much, do gear checks. Pretty simple, and just as good a solution as a gear req. Better actually because people could just throw on pvp/offspec/garbage gear to get around the requirements whereas a gear check is actually looking at their real gear
Go play retail this requirement is there so u will be super happy. U requesting this just shows u are gear over skill. When it’s skill over gear in this game.
A player could be in full purples and know nothing of there class spec and suck and a person in greens/blues could know the class/spec and be awesome at dps.
I feel bad for guilds trying to recruit people that have to be in full T5 it lowers the pool of available recruits.
Also why have a gear check for Kara when most us were doing it in blues and greens. Requiring more than that just shows people want to be carried to those last couple of pieces there alts need instead of helping there community gear alts which once again lowers the recruitment pool.
Don’t like raiding with scrubs? Start your own PuGs and and do a gear check.
Hell, this thread has inspired me to collect all the grey plate along with The Stoppable Force. I’ll keep those in my bags for after the gear check, along with some Spiced Wolf Steaks and Lion’s Strength pots.