Just to point out… the US Women’s Soccer team made the same claim for years… it went to trial and they lost.
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In a messed up way it’s nice to see the company who ruined the game we love go down in flames.
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What page lists the evidence of proving unequal promotions with data from the investigation.
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You’re dealing with people whose entire understanding of reality and perception of it isn’t based on the objective. It’s based on selectively curated evidence. You’ll notice this whenever you try to give them a source disagreeing and they immediately tell you the source isn’t credible, then link you some BS from like Kotaku. A lot of my ideals fall within the realm of liberal, yet to them I’m basically a Republican because they think anything to the right of extreme social justice and their Marxist BS is Republican.
I don’t think it’ll get that far. They’ll basically soon go the way of the ultra-right after Columbine where everyone just got sick of listening to their crap and tuned them out then they became a mockery by society.
This kind of stuff just makes me more and more convinced that Horseshoe Theory is actual fact. At the core they argue just like the extreme Right, and want some of the same things just for different reasons. The Far Right back in the 90s wanted us to police video games because “they made kids violent” and we should ban Harry Potter because “advocates witchcraft.”
Thgen the Far Left today wants policing in video games because it encourages sexism, racism, and toxicity and want any book that has certain words or themes banned because it might hurt feelings, i.e To Kill a Mockingbird.
It’ll be funny remembering all of my social justice warrior friends in the next 10 years pretending that they were never part of that despite a few of them actively trying to ruin my life because despite being transgender, I had the wrong viewpoints on some issues and therefore was apparently Hitler.
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I’m pretty sure the State has more than a spreadsheet. Calm yourself.
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Did you just copy pasta somebody else’s reddit post. You lazy bugger.
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It’s not just “someone said” it’s a lawsuit filed by the State of California after a 2 year investigation bringing together the corroborated testimony of many, many people.
The State of California doesn’t file suit, ever, unless they are extremely confident in a win.
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Everyone needs to be reminded, these monsters work so hard to keep it lowkey. This company deserves to burn.
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Page 3 has a sample table of how much women at the top are paid compared to men. Then if you scroll down to page 11, it is titled “FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS” and then “Sex Discrimination: Pay, Assignment, Promotion, Termination, and Constructive Discharge” which they then proceed to list all of their evidence based on financial records.
Once you get through that, there is then a section on Retaliation about women who brought up HR complaints being laid off.
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some people in this thread really working overtime to prove the gamer stereotype memes true
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While bro culture anywhere can easily get (more than)kinda toxic, the idea that it should be 50/50 hiring to be fair is utter malarkey.
Fair hiring is done by qualifications. You can’t take a group of people who are 90+% male, and fill a company with 50% women, and call it fair hiring. You probably also won’t end up with a particularly skilled group, because you’ll have to bend over backwards to reach that goal in any large sized company.
The expectation should be that you have at least the representative sample of groups based on their overall % in the target demographic (game devs).
But ya, on the one hand these kinds of things are abhorrent, on the other, they’re so ingrained in so many places that I cannot bring myself to expend the energy to be shocked.
Only disappointed.
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Yeah that documentation is pretty detailed at points. This is the wrong hill to die on for the Blizz white knights. They should go back to defending the terrible 9.1 (and SL ingeneral) game designs.
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Another extremely well thought out post that is easily understandable.
Doesn’t section 17 line 10 and section 24 line 22 make this a group relief?
How is that different from class action?
We love a company that virtue signals 24/7 while making employees commit suicide from sexual harassment.
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That person is wrong, this isn’t a class action lawsuit. It is the state suing on behalf of these Blizzard employees and on behalf of the state, because as you can see by reading the court filings, the charges are laws in California that Blizzard broke.
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They’re just rising up after being oppressed by women and the mainstream media for so long. Rise up, gamers!
Man, it’s so sad. Gamer frat boy culture has been a thing since at least the 90s, but Gamergate itself really was the catalyst that set so many impressionable kids and young adults down the dark path. Thanks, Bannon!
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You are blatantly lying. The table literally tells you what it is. It is NOT:
It IS:
“named executives regarding compensation during the period”.
After they show the table they begin to go back into CLAIMS and just state women were making less. Again show me the evidence…all it shows is the big names make a crap ton. We already knew that… they are overpaid compared to everyone…thats how being a ceo and group works. Now where is evidence this is about gender.
Page 11 is literally just a documented list of claimed complaints…they literally took the accusations from the accusers mouths and wrote them down in legal terms. Where is the evidence on page 11 showing anything. What line or quote are you seeing that is not just a claim.
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This is irrelevant without context. All things being exactly equal (e.g., education level, experience, duties, performance, lack of disciplinary actions, receipt of commendations, etc.), which is what must be assumed in these data given that I’m fairly certain payroll records do not include data held by HR, then who gets raises or promotions first cannot logically be determined to be based on any of the protected grounds (in this filing, primarily sex and possibly skin colour).
And I’m pretty sure the HR records don’t blatantly say, “Jane Johnson has more time in grade and time in service, better education, more experience, and a better disciplinary record than John Helton, but we’re going to promote him and give him a raise over her because she’s a woman.”
Unless you can get a person intimately involved in the hiring, firing, retaining, compensation, AND promotion aspects to either come out and admit that that’s what they were doing or to perjure themself in trial and be forced to recant later in hopes of avoiding prison time, then you have no idea what you’re talking about.
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How many “females” - gross term, BTW - love video games, wanted to get into game development, and were turned away by the pervasive, sweaty broculture from the internal procedures of the top studios all the way down to just the behavior of dudes in gaming-based spaces?
I mean, my hand is up on this one.
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It’s a requirement in many states. Do you live under a rock?
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