That’s a BS justification of nonsense. As long as one side can do it and the other can’t, that’s cheating. I’ll happily argue BOTH sides should be allowed to premade, but when neither was allowed and one side bypassed that to do so anyways, that’s obviously cheating. Heck in retail that’s an exploit that would see entire premade groups banned.
Nope this is just pvp on a pvp server.
From what I can see, your arguing for faction symmetry in an asymmetric game. Eventually WoW pivoted to exact symmetry faction balancing, but that’s not classic. I hated dying as I landed as much as the next Alliance player, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to make concessions till the game isn’t vanilla anymore.
As far as AV premades, that’s harder to ban than botting. It’s cross server and hard to prove. With that said, they haven’t even banned the botters so, imo, premades definitely aren’t getting banned any time soon.
No gold buying mentioned as cheating. Good to know. 
In the old days, we used to call those temporary bans. Kids these days…
lol
Well aware, but at least they stopped you. Cheating is cheating, regardless of how you justify it to yourselves, and the factions don’t need to be “balanced.” Its fine if more people want to be Horde. It is NOT fine if you’re able to get an advantage in a BG because of it.
Not sure the duration time of the action they got, but they just painted a target on their backs.
If flagged account is found doing the same kinds of things that got it flagged and actioned in the 1st place, you don’t think someone is going to take that a bit personal when they have to action the account again?
If it was me, i’d walk on egg shells, lest i become the first Crucifixion victim.
I agree that asymmetric BGs suck. Just wait till AB is the meta. AV, however, is an alliance-favored BG. Essentially though, what your arguing is for balance in faction count, which would have been f’ing great if they worked towards in any way back before they let all the alliance players transfer off the most horde-heavy servers like mine. The reality is though that you can’t just say “As long as one side can do it and the other can’t, that’s cheating.” without offering a constructive option for how to implement an intended fix.
As I see it, there’s no way to EFFECTIVELY find and/or punish those players. How do you prove it? Test if they’ve been in 5 AVs in a row with the same players? That will pick up many of the hardcore rankers who couldn’t get into WSG groups (particularly warriors) but aren’t in AV premades either. Also, the premades would just swap half their members with another premade group every 2 games. So, how would you implement a realistic solution to find and punish those players?
Also, you are saying “you” at me like you’re implying I’m a ranker or an AV’er, which I’m not. We can discuss like civilized people, or you can undermine any point you’re trying to make by trying to demonize/dehumanize your debate opponent, showing your arrogance. I expect better out of people than that second option and hope you prove to have an educated response.
No i am simply arguing for either neither side can premade or both can. Simple, easy.
As for the rest of your argument, since when does Blizzard need to prove anything?
Struggled to win AV as horde yesterday, just lost an AV as horde today!
They got rid of a large number of the alliance AFKers apparently. And it’s also clear how clueless a lot of the horde are about how to win AV properly.
My advice would be for alliance to backcap bunkers and graveyards, they are often left entirely undefended.
Oh! I like that second option. Both horde and alliance premades! Lets think how that would work… so, alliance would queue as a raid and be put in a special queue only for premades. Horde would wait, potentially even longer, for an alliance premade to be available to face. The games would take longer on average too, backing up the queue even more and lowering the honor per hour value of queuing as an official premade. Alliance players doing this would fall behind Alliance players doing the “cheat-y queuing” in honor per hour, asking them to risk their bracket ranking (RP) in order to be “honorable” (no pun intended), which they wouldn’t do. Horde would stop wasting their valuable queue slot on an empty premades queue… botta bing, botta bang, botta boom - we’re back where we started.
So how, pray tell, do we implement this in a viable manner?
It’s actually easier to appear to be doing something in AB while not doing anything.
Also, to reply to your second paragraph, Blizzard never needed to “prove” anything, you’re right. However, if a system they implement to catch the AV premades also accidentally starts catching regular rankers and suspending/banning both groups alike, then more and more players would stop risking their valuable characters for a pvp rank that would take all of their time and effort anyway.
Well, for what it is worth.
AV is supposed to be crappy honor per hour, if we take the original design and game play as a cue.
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And it is now. WSG is much better HPH.
As it should be.
It’s a shame we could not have had a 1.5 type of AV, WSG would have held its rightful place in the honor grind from day 1
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In theory yes, but they don’t care. They just afk for their rep/honor anyway, it’s not like they actually play the game.
Who said anything about premade queue’s? WSG premades don’t have to wait for other premades.
If you’re concerned about being banned for botting/cheating, then you’re botting/cheating. I have zero worries.
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Well, they may think they dont care, until someone blizz side takes offense, and decides to have a little crucifixion, and their entire account goes poof.
No honor, no rep, no toons, no nothing. dont let door hit you in the rear.
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…And my hopes for an enlightened discussion are dashed. I leave you to your arrogance and ignorance.