Achievements?

Any word on if the Achievement Points system is being implemented? If I recall correctly, that came out sometime around 2.4.3? I believe it was at the end of TBC?

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Negative. Cheetos were added in 3.0.2. Source: https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Achievement

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I was actually wondering this myself, but not that if it is being actually turned on like you are assuming.

I wonder if they are, or have already added in the achievement system and we just don’t know it.

I know this sounds dumb. But remember when they added the achievement system in wotlk (obviously they didn’t have this feature beforehand) the only way they could find out what you have done prior is if you had an item or quest completed that specifically could prove you have done it.

So if you had warglaives… obviously you got the BT achievement. But even if you killed illidan, but you got no pieces off him, you didn’t get the achievement.

So I wonder if the achievement system is actually already in, tracking our data, but jsut not turned on.

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It was for sure added in tbc. It was just the wotlk prepatch. So technically wotlk I guess? But I do remember gathering achievements in sunwell bt etc when it was ‘current’

The underlying foundation of Achievement tracking might be in TBC (the backend framework), but the UI and feature was a Wrath feature and there has been nothing official to indicate Achievements will be in TBC.

I think it would be good. Achievements and pet/mount collection could allow for people to do something once they finish raiding, as well as give something akin to rank 14, but without the decay.

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Achievements were never a positive influence on the game.

Keep them in WotLK with the rest of the WotLK crap.

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I think they were fine for those who wanted something to do, especially between content releases.

Using them as a "filter’ was abusive, however.

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The achievement system based those on completed spell ID’s and etc.

For example I logged off this paladin on TBC launch and played him for the first time in over a decade in 2019. He was never played during transmog or achievements but has the charger achievement and all the mog I earned as quest rewards. Such as the Verigan’s Fist.

Every character has a completed ID list and achievements pull from that. Like killing the last boss of a raid for the legacy achievement. I did everything but the last 3 in MC during vanilla. So I did MC but I don’t have the achievement because I never downed Rag.

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Yeah but even if you downed rag, and had nothing to prove it, like if you had no pieces of gear, no quest completed from downing him for example, it would have shown you didn’t complete it.

Like I remember when it came out it said I only completed like 4 heroics and if I remember correctly it said I didn’t even kill illidan even though I did like 5 times before achievements came out.

Not to mention arena achievements were really screwed as well. Like you said, a lot of them were tied to physical IDs you had but some just had to search off gear you had and if you had no pieces then you didn’t get the achievement. I think they said it even look for things like titles. I’d you had hand a Adal, then you instantly got all the raid achievements tied to that quest.

I literally just told you the game has a checks and balances system for ID’s, the quest one was only an example.

What are you not understanding? Statistics like boss kills like Rag have a hidden counter, they always have.

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And I literally just told you that it doesn’t because it specifically impacted me when I logged into my character and had a ton of missing achievements.

What aren’t you understanding lol.

Achievements came out with WOTLK pre patch… and I not only hope it never makes its way to TBC, but I also hope they remove it from WOTLK too…

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I dont see achievements as a feature but more of a record keeping. I dont think would of been bad even for vanilla. It has no bearings on core systems that function in the game. Just like a basic barber shop. doesnt change any of a games core systems.

Then it is an error from your UI. If it isn’t and Blizzard CS won’t fix it then you never earned them. Your claim doesn’t matter if their data claims otherwise. There is nothing to understand.

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Kuljek, you’re wrong on this issue with regard to the initial roll-out of the Achievement system. You had to have some sort of proof in your bags (loot) to earn achievement credit when the system rolled out.

Like Rorshak tried to explain to you, that’s how it worked originally. Whether it would work that way again is a very different question.

It’s probably fine if it’s only accessible by yourself. The problem starts when it becomes accessible to others and turns into the main way of qualification evaluation.

In vanilla and BC, you are evaluated by others from your gear and your community reputation, not a piece of paper attached to you, named achievement. Achievements are dull, empty and a step to make the game soulless. A move from living the game and do things for the sake of joy to running around to fill out the spreadsheet.

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It literally never worked that way. If you are talking about specific appearances, if they are not tied to an ID of any kind then of course you do not have them.

If your account does not have a logged value for boss kills then you never had them. My boss kills from prior to the achievement system are all there from characters that never logged into the game, until a decade after the system was out.

Quite frankly it doesn’t matter because Blizzard has the data and knows. If it’s not displaying correctly that is another issue. If they do not have the input on the account, they do not get the credit. Bottom line.

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You can say “their data” all you want, you haven’t posted anything that says otherwise besides “trust me I’m right”.

When I logged into my character, I was a fully clear BT toon. I had done every heroic and raid in the game at that point. When I logged in a was missing a ton of heroic dungeon achievements and I had to specifically go do them myself to get them back.

You can see clear as day the day I logged into get my achievements, and you’re telling me that as a hardcore raider, clearing BT and mostly sunwell content at this time, I just for whatever reason never cleared like 5-6 of these heroics? Dude you are just simply wrong, they didn’t have a freaking kill counter running in the background lol.

Show me some proof then besides your word, because I just showed you my proof that it isn’t how it worked at all.

It even said as a sunwell raider, I never even clear SLAVE PENS NORMAL at this point.

Also isn’t it weird that I had sulfurous on the 14th, but for some reason I didn’t have MC cleared in the achievements so I had to run it the next day to get it?

This proves you wrong my dude I’m sorry