Account bound essences would be a net positive for the game

Out of curiosity what content are you wanting to do? You can easily do up to 13s/14s and id even say 15s with rank 2 essences and be perfectly fine. You dont need rank 3 for any heroic bosses. So youre saying a few days to get rank 2 is too much or? What exactly is the issue?

Also the difference between rank 1 and 2 of most essences are marginal at best. If you get the base rank 1 for an alt that would suffice for 90% of the content this game offers.

This thread is mostly you spamming. You realize that right?

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For example, I want to have a CE main and maintain a casual mythic level alt of each healer class, but I can’t because I don’t have enough time, which is why Im in favor of a more alt friendly system. To get the rank 3 bis essences for healers, it takes weeks of repetitive grind to get each one. Lucid dreams: weeks of naz follower rep; ever rising tide: weeks of ankoan rep to exalted; well of existence: weeks of mehcagon rep to exalted - and multiply that by each alt you want to maintain.

Even with my main, I could only handle finding this girl’s diary once a day before I wanted to quit playing entirely. What I’m trying to say is if I’m forced to do the same mindless dailies and world quests over and over and over just to to competitive at a high level, I’m just not going to do it because it doesn’t pass as “content” to me.

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Can’t agree with you enough times. I wish the Heart of Azeroth’s Essences were Acc Wide also.

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I forgot what you all were arguing about… What was it?

Are you high? Condensed Life-force, visions of perfection, blood of the enemy, focusing iris, lucid dreams, ever rising tide, well of existence and conflict and strife, just to name a few, are all essences that have a huge impact between rank 1 and 2, not to mention rank 3. And these are all essences that require an enormous grind.

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It absolutely is a big deal. Like many others I’ve basically stopped playing my alts because of the essence grind.

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To a small minority of players it’s a big deal. It’s easy to think something is more important than it really is when it’s important to us. You know what I used to think was a big deal? Being able to cap out our weapons last expansion. I farmed keys hard and enjoyed the extra bumps each level gave me. Even though it was a very unpopular opinion there were some of us who were not happy about it, I thought it was a bigger deal than it was.

I just can’t picture making this game more accessible to alts, we’ve already lost so many rpg aspects and elements that we don’t need to lose anymore. I hope this is something that Blizzard does not cave on.

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It doesn’t affect you a single bit if people enjoy having multiple characters. You just seem to be one of those people who hates it when other people have fun.

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There isn’t a single thing stopping you from playing multiple characters. Have at it.

Not true in the least.

4 weeks of grinding to get the essences is stopping me.

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alts =/= mains

If you want an alt that is equal to your main then you’ll need to put in the same amount of work on that alt. It’s up to you to figure out if it’s worth it or not.

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Posts on a 110 character in an attempt to avoid being called out for not grasping the reality of mythic progression.

Doesn’t absolve you from not recognizing the simple truth that grinding 2 reps to exalted multiple times is the definition of tedious, and not remotely fun.

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If I wasn’t having fun I’d find a hobby that I could have fun with to waste my free time on.

You’re forgetting the most important con of all (to the people who are against it) - they think it’ll hurt them in some way. What way? They can’t explain. They just think it’ll hurt them. :confused:

The same people always respond “You just want another main” or “Essences don’t take as long as you act like they do” - yes, yes they do.

To them: Try doing raid essences, many of which are best in slot on a toon you aren’t doing heroic/mythic on, so you get the essences VERY slow. They will take months. Thus, you will need them even in M+ (WHICH IS NOT A “SECOND MAIN,” you do M+ on alts even casually, but if you want to do any remotely high keys, you need the better essences, period.) On top of this, Eternal Palace will be old content in 8.3 once the new raid drops, so we’re supposed to grind old content raids for essences for months?

Even if they drop the rep requirement for Mechagon to Revered, their essence is still best in slot for healing, because it turns overhealing into viable healing. And unless you do every single daily every single day, that’s well over a month of dailies, you can cut it down if you do the daily every single day, but most people are not going to, as they have lives.

That’s just two essences, there’s many more that are worse. Like the Nazjatar Bodyguard Daily, etc.

Then there’s people like the OP who actively play more than one toon FOR THEIR GUILD RAID TEAM.


I agree with the OP, as anyone who knows my posts about this know.

Account Wide essences are needed, period. No one has given an actual argument as to why they should not be in the game. They only give bad excuses like “Stop being lazy” (which is not the reason, and I should just start flagging the posts because they’re insulting the people) or the reasons listed above.

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I have fun doing raids, m+, and to an extent pvp.

You know, the things that SHOULD be the barrier between an alt and a main.

I don’t have fun repeating the same mindless fetch quest bs for the 4th (actually 5th) time in a row so that i can actually do the content i want and pull my weight.

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We do. The grind sucks. I can barely do it once, let alone multiple times.

Not the same thing :roll_eyes: gear has been toon specific grind since forever. Now we have an AP grind and an esscence grind. That’s the issue. Tooooooo muuuuuucchhhh crap boring grinds.

It needs to be account wide just to make it bearable.

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As someone who plays 2 healers at the mythic level, with another 2 at the heroic level of raiding, thank you for pointing this out.

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If you can barely do it once then it might be time to take a break.

It is the same thing. It’s a type of equipment that our characters use for power progression.

No, its not the same as equipment. Its a band aid for what SHOULD have been a new talent row and spell we should have gotten between 110-120 that blizzard couldn’t be bothered to add.

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