Accessibility should not have to be earned. Steady flying should be automatically available as an alternative

Skyriding stinks for landing on nodes and Y’all know it.

There is nothing like people who are too darn lazy to make a bypass icon that doesn’t rely on a crappy pathfinder requirement to tell us we are just complaining to complain.

I suppose I could just play another stinking game elsewhere that is more playable, Maybe I will, I don’t have Blizzard tattooed on my chest or anything.

Thank you so much for writing this! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
When I wrote the new steady flight speed is too fast for me, I got laughed at.

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Steady flight is not accessibility but it does act as one but not advertise as one.

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Ah yea hiding behind “accessibility” now. Riiiight.

Not every hobby is for everyone. Much like the people who claimed they should be able to spoof Pokemon go because they’re couldn’t leave the house due to disability. There’s other games to play. But you wing quit because you are not affected by this physically

Nope spoiled are the ones demanding catering. You have that backwards.

Exactly.
That never happened in this scenario.
Ion tried to remove flight…the base rebellled and shortly after Ion did another interview and said flight was staying but in an obvious tantrum created pathfinder to pretty much make flight pointless where you got it after it was no longer even needed…the expansion was mostly just over and coasting to a finish anyway.

There is ZERO content trivialized by flight other than Ion using world trash and geophaphy as ‘content’ to drag out the fact that they dont have much ACTUAL content.

These trolls like to use that ‘trivialize’ crap to make it sound like they have an argument in defense of pathfinder, but they dont…two expansions in a row now with flight on day ONE…hour one…is proof beyond argument that PF didnt trivialize anything.

yeah, son…ION is 'hiding behind accessibility" lmao

https://youtu.be/Axbytwd84zU?t=1350
Ion H: “steady flight has its place, certainly for accessibility reasons”

https://youtu.be/ciYoLxIXxak?t=2170
Ion H: “some folks, for accessibility reasons, personal preference reasons, maybe you just like being able to afk in mid air…dragonriding isn’t your favorite, we dont want to take anything away.”

why are you here again? to mock and insult lesser abled players?
that says more negative about you personally than it does them.

sorry to hurt your feelings, son…but they dont need to go anywhere else.
steady flight isnt going anywhere and Ion has trivialized PF to the point of uselessness now and will certainly realize soon enough that its entirely unnecessary as a requirement for EITHER flight.

For that time one of them says ‘no one is mocking disabled players’ …lmao

ION says its there in part for accessibility regardless of what the trolls want to claim

Im sure they wouldnt bother trying, but its too bad steady flight doesnt have a variable speed more like skyriding does.
The day DF went live I had a horrible migraine and just trying to use dragonriding was terrible.
I can imagine a percentage of players have some kind of problem every day with it.

Now…if we could get these attention seeking trolls to go somewhere else, we might be able to discuss this in a way that is actually productive and get some ideas that might help beyond what ion and crew have already added to the game

No argument on that point.
if you actually read what I said, it was about being AFK and there being no difference in AFk HOVERING versus AFK sitting on a peak somewhere with skyriding.

I wouldnt go anywhere. Stay right here and keep telling Ion to remove pathfinder as a requirement for steady flight. Its pointless to be there given Pathfinders STATED purpose…which was to keep us ALL on the ground until X date and Y content was done.
That was purpose was made null and void the first hour of dragonflight when we all got dragonriding without exploring the world or doing pathfinder.

Stay right here friend…and keep telling Ion and crew to get rid of PF as a requirement for steady flight. :+1:

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Weak argument considering you get a super sonic fighter jet without having to do anything. At least when I’m slow flying I have time to look around at the amazing artwork.

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Yeah, when I farm I rather use normal flying. Just easier to manage when youre spacing out and just farm. And I use dragonflying for traveling.

Not only that, zone design was clearly based around flight as a primary means of transport. Heck, they actually rolled sky riding into a primary feature of the campaign quests!

I’m all for engaging in flight from day 1 like this, but I agree that we really shouldn’t limit it to skyriding.

Disability arguments aside, it’s no longer an achievement to fly anyway really, just another base mechanic. There are plenty of things to “earn” locked behind the level 80 wall.

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Plus, part of this expansion is underground - designing with that verticality in mind is what makes the zones feel great and believable.

Zaralek Caverns walked so Hallowfall and the Ringing Deeps could run.

Once again, another one missing the point.

Sky riding was unlocked immediately. Most people complaining about lack of steady riding are due to lack of accessibility.

So not only do you assume that it’s quick and easy but that people have early access.

  1. You are assuming usage of sky riding to complete the campaign/exploration. This is not a given when people cannot use it.
  2. Ground mount usage to complete these tasks is not quick. I know, because I did it.
  3. At minimum, it’s a lack of empathy and there’s no valid reason to either lock both or unlock both.
  4. If you don’t like these posts, mute them.

Those that experience motion sickness or have difficulties with the coordination of movement and activity that needs to take place, so – from what I’ve seen – primarily neurological, not mechanical.

Remember, this is a mode of transportation. Not a core gameplay mechanic. This is not people complaining about rotations, APM, min/maxing, etc. This is simply just flying from point A to point B.

Your lack of empathy is, quite frankly, disgusting. I cannot help but think of a young, naive, ignorant college bro who thinks they know everything and is both smarter and tougher than the average person. I realize that’s over-generalization and I dislike that, but your snide and flippant response leaves me little hope that your current state will lead to anything novel until you experience something that affects you directly. I appreciate your candor though, in letting some of us know you have little to nothing to actually contribute to discussion and to disregard your selfish viewpoint(s).

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Of all the things you people could find to whine about this baffles me. It’s just flying. I semi understood the argument when y’all thought you would have to wait months to get pathfinder, as we did in previous expansions. But you don’t have to wait months. You have to wait mere hours that it takes to complete the storyline. You wanna whine about pvp, hard content, group requirements, etc… I’d have a little sympathy. This is a stupid argument and blizzard already gave into yalls demands. Be happy and find something else to whine about.

I find your “whining” to be much more interesting, since it’s an obvious disparity from a standpoint of principle and no actual compelling reason has been given.

This isn’t a complex solution. It’s not a core gameplay feature. It’s simply transportation. That some feel so invested in denying a similar, and arguably inferior, aspect to others is much more character revealing than a lot of what I’ve seen on this forum.

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My “whining” is telling y’all to stop trying to stifle creativity in wow because “it’s just so hard to hit buttons when flying boohoo”. News flash. It’s not hard. It’s note even remotely hard. Do y’all do this in other games too? If something is changed do y’all just flip the f out and run to the forums to cry about it? 99% of the wow community has figured out how to hit a button when flying and I understand there may be some sort of disability out there that makes it hard for you to do this but I also understand blizzard gave you an easy way to handle this. Spend a couple of hours doing the story line. They aren’t making you wait months, they aren’t making you do anything you don’t want to do, and they aren’t forcing you to conform. All you have to do is a few hours of quest and if you can’t dragonride jump on your ground mount. Seems like an easy compromise considering we had to wait over a year in previous expansions to even gain flying.

Thank you for letting me know you have nothing new to contribute.

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Hey, I’m here for you. Go back to sitting in the capital city and doing nothing because something as simple as flying is just too complicated.

theyre not missing any points…theyre just TRYING to post crap to troll for attention.
Just look at their posts collectively. Nothing really added to the actual discussion…just insults, mocking, trolling and some actual attacking, both vieled and quite blatant…so they can feel better about themselves, lifting up their own bruised self esteems on the backs of others.

Its way past disgusting at this point given a large portion of their target audience here are disabled players.

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You have to wonder how that sort operates IRL with disabled folk.
I can see some pretty vile behavior coming out of a few of them given how they mock them in here.

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