Same.
I LovE skyriding…the faster the better.
But Im not lacking in human empathy like a list of trolling sorts in here and can actually understand their issues and so being human being, I want them to have no more problems than I had getting what I wanted from the game
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WOW what a self interested OBNOXIOUS vomitous thing to say…
so youre playing victim according to that clown if you have personal issues of ANY kind that hinder your ability to do something
DISGUSTING…
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Throughout playing the expac, I came to the realization that DF was allowed but not SF because of the verticality of the map. You can go down fast but going up takes time, or the use of flight paths. In my opinion this adds to the experience of feeling trapped the further down you go. Does this add to the experience greatly? Probably not because they wanted to minimize the affect DF actually has because it’s clearly unpopular.
On another note, we’re just having a conversation here dude. Focusing on “logical fallacies” is going to create a larger barrier to conversation. Let’s keep it chill there’s no scoreboard.
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Yea, I figure they want to showcase their latest and greatest gimmick (cough ripped off from Guild Wars 2 cough) and didn’t figure it’d cause too much backlash.
They were never meant to be combative, that wasn’t my intention. In general, I try to be as objective as possible (and usually fail spectacularly) and, when necessary, point out flawed arguments, my own as well, if needed.
This conversation has also seemingly riled up a lot of backlash in its own right, and “emotionless logic” is sort of my default setting. So my apologies if that comes off as less-than-friendly. The McCoy-Spock dilemma, if you will, lol.
I am out of Likes for the day, so here l’s one in the form of a reply
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No, the only reason you’re here is to insult Ion. That’s a fact.
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No, this thread WAS about removing pathfinder. Now it’s about you insulting everyone, even the ones that want pathfinder to be history.
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I will agree with this. Druid flight form is NOT skyriding. Everything in game says that. You go to do a race and when you are ready to go, you’re dismounted and have to remount… the game says it’s NOT a dragonriding mount. When you want to cast the hearthstone, you have to dismount before as you’re in flight form. Flight form needs to be just what it is, flight form which is NOT skyriding. Give that back to druids as a stand-alone form.
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Although, looking at wowhead comments that makes it sound like if you’re just on a flight capable mount in the right area you can walk away and the quest will do itself.
It’s the same reason that they gave back in WoD. Steady flight doesn’t have the same limitations that dynamic has like vigor and momentum so it is harder to control how people enter a quest’s area to get the designed experience when they can hover and drop in precisely controlling aggro if you pick it up a lot easier than with DF. (that and druid interactable item cheesing) So they just want people to experience the main story once before unlocking it (having trouble finding it atm but was in one of the many TWW dev interview videos that came out around blizzcon or closer to launch of tww)
DF is a lot easier to control for without sticking it in a no-fly zone with obstacles, the cinderbees of doom area by the meadery is a good example, got pretty dense tree coverage that makes it hard to enter the area in the middle with df without it being a gamble on your survival because you’re either flying low enough that you’ll pick up aggro but can see to navigate or crashing in blind from above with limited chances to drop aggro and try again without spending time regaining vigor.
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But what at least one person been doing now for a number of weeks is not giving an opinion, they are simply running their post count up, and cutting and pasting spam over and over again 30+ times over a course of a couple hours. That is not stating an opinion or even carrying on a debate or discussion, that is just spamming and making noise.
When no matter what side of the line a person stands on, people point out something they have wrong, they then interject that, that person is somehow against disabled people playing the game or attacking them. When that person is in no way saying anything against disabled people, they are simply pointing out either one their opinion or two something that has actually been stated by Blizzard in full context that just in some way goes against their constant wall of spam.
I am happy to state opinion and I am even happy to debate things and ideas. Wont deal with someone who just spams mambo jumbo junk of cut n past of things mixed with half truth, half lies and a bunch of the sky is falling lies about what other people have said word sailed.
Everyone had agreed that even before the launch of TWW that more than likely this will be the last time we will see any flight period locked behind pathfinder. But that is just opinion and educated guess work. Not Fact. Nothing has been released that officially points to that is at this point exactly what the design team is shooting for.
Everyone agrees that neither flight style is ever going away. Anyone speculation that one or the other is going to be deleted from the game is just pure biased ranting without any factual truth to it of it happing in the future, even if that is something they wish to happen. One can not fully 100% base the future at this point off of what happen 10 years ago in WoD. And the thought pattern that people are trying to use that 10 years ago the WoD flight debacle is somehow Blizzard execs having a out to get attitude towards disabled people playing WoW is ludicrous. Anyone to just keep cutting and pasting the same conspiracy theory over and over 40 times a day is just spam. Not stating anything to the company or anyone that actually reads this post. Blaming people who disagree with this conspiracy theory as some how hating or picking on disabled people is even more disingenuous and really doesn’t add one thing to any discussion to anyone or even to Blizzard when saying one side of the coin or the other on how flight or pathfinder should be handled.
I am not the only person here who sees this for what it is and has no problem calling a spade a spade.
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It blows my mind that Blizzard hasn’t banned this person yet. I have seen people actioned for far less.
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Yea it’s just the “in-between” quest part that’s the difficulty. The terrain isn’t design like the barrens, or something… Trying to go to the quest marker on foot and, whoops, this path isn’t passable, after fighting the 12 unavoidable mobs to go this way, now I get to backtrack and go the other way.
Ok, I must have missed that. It’s definitely still leaps and bounds above ground mounts where you have to charge through mobs of enemies. I wonder if they could’ve compromised by creating “no fly zones” around active quests (for static flying only), meaning you could at least get in the general area, but then have to use sky riding or a ground mount to get closer. Granted, this would’ve taken more resources to fulfill.
That makes at least a modicum of sense, but, interestingly enough, has an even greater potential for motion sickness. For instance, in that situation, I might glide (with my sky riding mount) over an objective and whip my camera around to find a good landing spot. That arguably would increase motion sickness, were I prone to it.
Maybe we should start reporting their posts. The posts are either spamming, trolling or insulting or all of them at once.
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no sweat…I just got all three of you so go ahead…
Yeah, it hits into that weirdness of where accessibility can cut into game design, and the propensity of players in general to sacrifice fun for efficiency (like the cow killing in witcher 3 or me obsessively grinding levels in old school jrpgs) Especially since they kinda went lazy with making flight in the first place basically just be opening up dev tool non bound camera rather than a mechanic that can be controlled for more easily.
And with the DF, I think they get away with a lot by having some big safe landing zones near a quest objective and you’ll probably get most people landing there than trying to find a perfect spot.
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Why don’t you just unlock steady flight for your wife at this point
Skyriding made me sea sick when trying to land on the tops of the higher rocks. I’m so happy normal flying is available.
I didn’t even get sea sick when I went on an actual boat on a cruise!
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Even though I have no issues with skyriding from an accessibility standpoint, I still turned off the FoV change using an addon, and also disabled one of the two skyriding effects in the options menu.
That has helped make it easier to see while skyriding, but still retain the speed feeling and cool sound effects.
I consider the large number of likes on this thread as proof that this is indeed a concern that at least a large portion of players have.
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Dang 1 day later, +300 posts of mostly incoherent flaming.
And lio at 266 out of the 1k rofl… it blows my mind mods let these posts go on.
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