Those issues are not resolved, now, are they? This is self-evident because this thread exists with people who are having issues.
If it was, in fact, resolved, then there would be no thread and no people having issues, would there?
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If we are serious about dissecting arguments here, let’s address them:
Unlocking DF early but not SF creates two classes of players
This is not true, all players have access to all the same features at the same time. Some players have issues with motion sickness, this is regardless of whether or not they have access to SteadyFlight, whether or not DragonFlight is the thing that triggers that motion sickness. The point is, the problem is between the chair and the keyboard. Full stop.
Blizzard is being dismissive of people with disabilities
This is not true, that’s why there is an accessibility menu.
DF is better than SF
You can see up and down this thread that this is not the case and most players prefer steady flight. In air AFK and the precision for crafting are just better.
The people demanding this change are standing up for and care about the disabled
Patently false by the fact that they are using mental illnesses as insults.
Did I miss anything?
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Pathfinder exists to make us play the campaign the way they want us playing the campaign. Not what we want. Not what we think. What they think. Their game. Their rules. Our feelings on what is or isn’t immersive is irrelevant. Our feelings on how dynamic flying works or doesn’t is irrelevant.
They made the campaign to make us do it their way. That’s it. That’s why it exists.
They could turn around tomorrow and say, “nah, fully ground them” and that would be because that’s how they want their story played for their reasons.
My response was about the insane amount of hostility and screaming that’s been allowed to run rampant. Not the topic existing. Reading helps.
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Me think no pathfunder.
It bad.
Me think bad.
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This is just appeal to authority.
You didnt actually do anything but say “cuz they said so”.
Fair enough, but, irrelevant. The customers shape the direction of the company, so, arguing tha tthe company picks a direction and thats it nobody has a say is a fairly asinine take.
People dont like the decision, they have every right to argue it. This is not a dictatorship with a captive audience.
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Me use suggesterian thingy box.
Me no type good.
Me hope they read it ok.
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Personally, I think players should be expected to meet the designers vision and not vice versa but this is a game who’s artistic goal is “suck as much money and time out of people as possible” so I can’t deny that you have an argument. Really, the whole thing is sick and demonic.
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Personally I love the new dragon riding system and won’t use the Pathfinder Steady Flight when I unlock it.
However my wife absolutely HATES it and barely played the last expansion because of the flight system. I agree it should just be an accessibility option in the game menu.
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If phone game, yes.
World of craft, me give 2 cents.
Me 2 cents help me think.
Its a weird dichotomy though, isnt it?
Really the players should be meeting the designers design, but, the designer isn’t designing in absentia. They are supposed to be designing something that would appeal to the customers. So while it’s foolish to always listen to the client, because sometimes they have no idea what they actually need and if you just listened to them you would fail… at the same time if you just design whatever you want with zero care of what the client needs you wouldn’t have customers very long.
Blizz probably would love to just have a big button on your screen and no matter what you did every time you did anything it sent blizz 100$, but, you arnt going to stay in business very long with such a design unless your “customers” have no other choice.
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When devs create game and players want to do the content in a way they feel isn’t good for the story and gameplay they created, they limit it for the time they want it limited or where.
That’s how things work.
It’s not irrelevant just because you don’t like it.
They do not.
No one said y’all can’t sit here and talk about it.
Just use logic, instead of attacking people, insulting them and screaming at them.
Case in point:
Meaning there’s no logical conversation to be had with you and all you want to do is put others down.
Here’s hoping all of the hostility in this thread gets nuked.
I didnt attack you, I attacked your argument. You, however, attacked me while whining about it.
Hilarious.
I explained why its irrelevant, you dont have to like it, but that doesnt make it incorrect.
Likewise the whole “flying isnt good for the game or the story” goes out the window when gliding is enabled day one. Functionally they perform the same exact purpose, there is little difference. Thats like saying “we dont want any dirtbikes on this trail, but quads, side-by-sides, etc are all fine”.
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Static flying is not an accessibility option. And your wife disliking dynamic flying while you enjoy it just proves that people are more interested in their personal preference and not accessibility.
As someone with a disability that affects flying… we were given ways to get around without issue this expansion. The options during the campaign existed.
Hilariously, 90% of the comments in here are from people without disabilities using us as a scapegoat for their personal preference.
Y’all should think on that for a while. I’m muting this dumpster fire of disingenuous arguments.
I won’t pretend to know Ion’s motivations, but I agree with the rest.
The “it only takes a couple of hours” argument also requires use of said activity (sky riding) which can cause problems in the first place.
It’s like saying “It takes me 15 seconds to walk up some stairs, what’s your problem? Why do you need a ramp?” to a quadriplegic in a wheelchair.
NOTE: I am not saying people who get motion sickness from sky riding are akin to quadriplegics. I’m saying, as is done in an analogy, that this is a comparison used for illustration purposes that your experiences are not everyone’s experiences. It also makes me sad that I’m still probably going to get people to fight me on the use of an analogy.
Let’s try this with another analogy. I’d like to make a law that says you can get a license to drive if you complete your driver’s test without the use of corrective lenses. Every person has access to be able to complete the test, but some people have issues with vision. The problem, as you stated, is one of PEBKAC. Is this creating two classes of people or, at the least, treating a subset unfairly?
Using the analogy above, the State gives me a pair of 2x power reading glasses to complete my driver’s license test (my contacts prescription, for comparison, is -5.25/-7.5). Is the State being dismissive or not here?
Many of the people arguing in this thread are going to prefer Steady Flight. The population is skewed. I don’t think we have the data to prove or disprove this. In any event, the determination of “better” is different than which is more popular. That’s an Appeal to Popularity (sorry).
True. So we can change that to “Some of the people demanding this change” and make it true again.
Where did these claims come from, btw? I can’t see who you’re quoting.
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I will say, with the way they designed Khaz Algar, it’s very hard to Dragon ride all the way up from the lowest parts of the map, and as you progress the story you go deeper and deeper, so you can clearly see that’s a design decision built around dragon riding that’s nullified via steady flight.
Warriors , Mages , and Demon hunters can move really fast which can cause someone to be dizzy 
. Players who complain about Skyriding will also complain about classes being too fast .
I agree that Steady flying should have stayed in. I had to go through the Achievement questline to get it back. It would not have been so bad except I have a bad right eye due to a retina detachment that was reattached but I am not getting as good a vision. This did bother me and I would have to stop frequently to rest the eye. Not crying…it’s just a fact.
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lmao…and the fact that they lack the processing power to figure out that if its THAT SHORT that it no longer serves its stated purpose of keeping us on the GROUND to ‘explore’ for months on end…ALL of us…not just 2% of those having personal issues with skyriding
PF was about ALL of us being on the ground.
And NOW its being used as a weapon against those are having real issues with skyriding…even if it is only half a day to finish.
They dont get to say ‘its only a few hours’ and then PRETEND it has ANY MEANING to this game anymore.
Literally an Oxymoron to say it matters…but no, it doesnt matter
You adapted to the situation, so did I and will try to do in future expansions. This is all we can do other than to provide Blizzard with feedback. I believe due to feedback, Blizzard added options to the Accessibility menu for motion sickness. Thanks Blizzard!
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Be careful about calling her your ‘wife’ in here…lmao…the trolls have already shown their disatisfaction with the word ‘wife’ a bit ago, lol
But yeah…I was worried THE WIFE wouldnt be able to do skyriding over her motion sickness, but she has her mouse controls turned down so slow it takes a week and a half to do a 360 turn, lol…so shes able to as long as it doesnt start flipping around too much.