Accessibility should not have to be earned. Steady flying should be automatically available as an alternative

THIS THREAD is about removing FIVE HOURS of pathfinder.

If youre lacking the cognitive skills to grasp that fact and STAY ON TOPIC, maybe the internet is just to confusing for you… :+1:

its irrelevant how long you think it takes to complete, that’s not the argument being made.

The argument is it should not have a restriction placed upon it. Full stop.

You can disagree with that, thats fine, but you are pigeoning the chess board and strutting around like you did something. You did not.

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exactly as I thought…joke responses. lmao…because you have nothing.

PF can be an achieve for mounts, etc…it doesnt need to exist for flight

next joke attempt at it?

I literally just addressed your argument.

I know right?
and that guy didnt EARN HIS flight at all,…lmao…he got it day one for NOTHING lol
hard to take them seriously in here lol

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no son…you didnt…you shot out some inane joke comment that has nothing to do with anything relevant here.

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Should have to earn it, because its the superior flight mode?

Right?

Which means that gliding is the inferior flight mode since its handed out for free and doesnt need to be earned.

did OP ever explain why they made this thread? They have a lot of gold skyriding achievements so it is obviously not an accessibly issue for them.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/pipsayin/achievements/expansion-features/skyriding

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Which is unaffected, since you aren’t required to use steady flight before completing the requirements.

You two are arguing in support of the same thing.

I … cannot disagree lol. However, I think Lio’s point is that Blizzard (Ion) has already taken steps to include accessibility options for sky riding, thereby, at least to some degree, admitting that there are people who do have issues with it. So the argument shouldn’t focus on “do people have issues with sky riding?”

Does this actually prove people have issues with sky riding? No. That would be, like you said, an appeal to authority. Likewise it does not prove that the accessibility options actually remove or even diminish the effects.

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his response was pathetic and asinine.
He can work for pathfinder WITHOUT it being required for fligth…which MoST did anyway…got skyriding day one and THEN did PF after…myself included

cant take any of them seriously inhere…

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Yet you cant come up with any compelling or coherent argument, instead sticking to logical fallacies and personal attacks.

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What a pathetic whine in favor of removing Pathfinder.

/golfclap

My god, why is this thread still here? It’s just turned into a screaming match.

This is really simple, people: Blizzard wants us playing their leveling campaign the way they want us playing it. Whether that’s on the ground or with the flight style they consider to be more immersive. That is why Pathfinder exists: to go through the campaign their ways for how they want us playing. After that, they don’t care what we do. Because we finished the campaign their way.

And yes, they consider dynamic flying more immersive. Go read/watch all the interviews and whatnot from before DF launched.

Dynamic flying is their compromise to fully grounding us.

Us disabled folks have options. This expansion was easy to get around compared to DF. Quests had options to let the game fly for us. We still have passenger mode. Those airships were swank. They made sure we could get around. We did the campaign their way with their preferred methods.

That’s all there is to it. Our feelings are irrelevant. What we find immersive is irrelevant. This is their game and it’s how they want it played.

Stop making us disabled folks look bad and using us as your scapegoat for your tantrums over static flying. This thread is embarrassing with how many tantrums I’ve seen and all the screaming.

Do it their way or quit playing. I don’t really care anymore. But this thread went from nonsensical to just downright toxic as hell.

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Now there’s your classic ad hominem.

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THIS THREAD…if even ONE of them actually can READ…is about PATHFINDER being removed as a requirement.

the issues of disabilities has been RESOLVED…ION said steady flight STAYS…the game HAS ACCESSIBILITY settings NOW…
https://imgur.com/XVNtkJb

:point_right: :point_right:THOSE issues are RESOLVED AND NOW DEAD HORSE NOTHING… :point_left: :point_left:

The ONLY ISSUE AT HAND HERE…is a few hours of PATHFINDER

but as I said…they NEED their strawman jokes so they have anything to say in here at alll because they KNOW they ALL LOSE IF they stay ON TOPIC HERE…

Honestly, normal flight should have been baseline. If you had to complete Pathfinder for a flying reward, that reward should have been dragonflight. I prefer dragonflight for most things but think that “earning” steady flight is just as asinine as not letting us fly at all.

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its an alt getting around and ignore Id bet…I’ll ignore it now, personally

its irrelevant how easy pathfinding is, or isnt.

Its irrelevant whether ion made moves to make gliding more accessible.

The argument is that pathfinding should never have existed. full stop.

Both the argument that pathfinder is easy to do, AND that ion made efforts to increase the accessibility of gliding just furthers the original argument, they don’t actually counter it. If pathfinder is easy to do and “only takes a couple hours” then its functionally irrelevant. If Ion recognized that there are accessibility issues with gliding that do not exist with flying, again, this just lends to the OPs argument, it doesnt fight against it.

The only reason gliding exists at all is because Ion is vindictive and petty. Instead of making flying+ where they could have made flying overall more fun and enjoyable, they had to create a whole separate system that was as close to flying as possible without actually being flying JUST BECAUSE.

Which is why flying is restricted and gliding is not.

Simple. Because this is forums where we discuss anything Wow.

Let me guess…you don’t want to her about this topic? Then keep scrolling - duh!!!

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yeah…dont expect that from attention seekers…they arent capable of making that rational decision…