Accessibility should not have to be earned. Steady flying should be automatically available as an alternative

Agreed, though accessibility doesn’t stop at disabilities. Left-handed mice, for example.

Just being pedantic, I suppose.

See. We can’t even debate because you do this every time. You are arguing and not even reading what I am typing.

That would require admitting it’s a double standard, and throw the entire argument into the can for them.

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it is still about accessibility as per the game settings themselves…
https://imgur.com/XVNtkJb

maybe YOU should just go play your game and stop trolling players who are in here expressing THEIR concerns with this game.
That you dont…wont…cant…just proves that YOU are the ones who cant be taken seriously.

I mean…really…you ALL are in here WHINING that some players having trouble with skyriding want the SAME treatment as YOUR ilk got when YOU got YOUR preferred mode of flight.

No one is whining about this.

Please stop framing the fact that you get a little queasy playing the game as a reason for why Blizzard should let you turn off spiders.

Btw, this was pretty much the forum’s reaction whenever people on the forum “rightfully” asked for arachnophobia mode.

I just don’t understand it. Literally quoting it and they are completely ignoring it lol. Making claims of me putting words in their mouth, when they are the ones mincing words… and I am quoting what I said to what they said :sob:

My brain hurts.

Actually, lio has been whining about this for months :joy:

Fair, actually.

Meanwhile I support releasing steady flight immediately alongside skyriding. Weird.

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TO REPEAT…

that applies to ALL of you in here trolling for absolutely ZERO VALID reason.
NONE of this applies to you and you ALL know it…PERIOD.
You just NEED attention in here…fact.

Most do. Myself included.

Tbh I’d love for pathfinder to stay and give us mounts or something instead.

Literally read what me and snow just said and try again.

The only one here that is trolling is you. But nice try with the typical lio gaslighting.

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Bear in mind while these jokers say that kind of inane crap…HE got HIS flight and DIDNT have to do Pathfinder lmao.

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Lio, I know you’ll read this and then act like you didn’t, so…

I think part of your problem is that you always assume there is one fence and two yards. They’re over there, and I’m over here.

Just because I’m arguing that steady flight isn’t an accessibility option doesn’t mean I’m not sympathetic to the issue at hand.

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Excellent point.
Blizzard cared enough to literally try to help with arachnophobia…NOT a disability…and yet these jokers are in here harassing and mocking those who are having ACTUAL issues with disabilities that make skyriding too hard to bother with.

Thankfully ION is listening more and more and these trolls have no say in the matter.
Steady flight is here to stay as per IONS words and they’ll all have to grow up and cope.

The next thing to get Ion to realize is Pathfinders stated purpose …to keep us ALL on the ground to ‘explore’…died with Dragonriding day one of DF…and this abomination needs to be removed entirely at this point if he wants to NOT look like a villian here.

Fair. Given the context of this thread and the discussions surrounding disabilities, I did assume that the discussion of motion sickness was in relation to disabilities.

What exactly do you mean “your” ilk? I’m just a dude with an opinion. I may agree with some other opinions in this thread, but that doesn’t mean I have aligned myself with those people in any capacity.

Furthermore, I am not against the inclusion of accessibility options. Where I disagree is the idea that the inclusion of static flying should be viewed as an accessibility option. I don’t think the answer to “people struggle with skyriding” is to give people an inferior flying option. Rather, I believe the answer should be for Blizzard to include better, more robust features in their accessibility menus to make it easier on those people to engage with it (if we are even assuming this is as large of an issue as you think it is).

Not that any of this matters to you. I think you prefer to view yourself and others as perpetual victims on the matter lol

Bingo.

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Young and/or ignorant people with no life experience, who have never been taught normal human empathy, are going to act like that, and maybe life will teach them to be different, but maybe it won’t. For every opportunity to be decent and empathetic, there’s an opportunity to be callous and cruel, and lots of people take the second option.

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Based on the dictionary definition, it absolutely could be, depending on severity. It depends how you’re limiting the definition of “disability”. Is it the dictionary definition - “a physical or mental condition that limits a person’s movements, senses, or activities.”? I would say possibly yes, as people could need to limit their activity due to discomfort. Is it going to qualify for Social Security? Probably not.

But that’s all beside the point, as neither of those matter, since we’re not really applying a legal standard. The idea is to allow people to play who otherwise would not.

So this restriction is pointless, as is the assumption that the people that experience motion sickness to a degree that they complain on the forums are simply “a little queasy”.

That is a strawman.

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I wouldn’t try to make sense of lio.

To them, it’s black and white. If you don’t agree, you are against them. Welcome to the club.

One of us.
One of us.
One of us…

That’s the tl;dr of what these posts have devolved into over the past few months.

Definitely takes some diagnosable disorder to have the mindset that is willing to mock disabled folk.
I half believe some wouldnt have any second thoughts about tripping someone using a cane in here…or worse…based on THEIR own behavior in their posts.

The behavior is a bit disturbing…

Sociopathy Traits
Lack of empathy for others.

Dont expect valid points from desperate, agenda driven minds…the agenda here being to get attention by saying pointless, trolling crap to get a reaction.

I know you’re passionate about this, but I think we can all try to take a breath and try to remain rational and civil =) I try to give people a few chances, but yes, once the bad faith argument unmistakably rears its head, that’s when I usually know nothing more is to be gained from reading or responding to said people.

I just don’t know that we need to immediately jump there every time. It can push some people away (other readers) who might otherwise agree with the premise at large.

Just my 2 cents – and I recognize this is easy for someone like me to say from my position. It’s not meant as a chastisement.

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