Seriously the game should be fun. If someone levels too 450 Archaelogy just give them ALL the epic items. Who are the fun police that think that is a bad idea? Who cares if you now have multiple pre-raid BiS? Let players have the gear and have fun.
Cata is an accelerated timeline so accelerate rewards, loot and fun! Have Bosses drop 3 times the loot. Have rewards be 3 times the Justice/Valor/Honor and Conquest. Get people into BiS gear and having fun!!!
If each phase is going to be super fast you can’t have old drop rates and players never getting the items they need in that phase. Besides the real fun starts when you are in complete BiS.
Serisouly let players have fun this time around. Give them 3 times the loot/rewards since Cata is moving 3 times as fast. Put hard to get items like Souldrinker, Gurthalak, Trinkets etc at the vendor too for a new badge. (if you are doing gamma dungeons)
Get everyone in BiS gear so the game can be enjoyed. Who cares? Right? Only people that will argue against this are some fun police that don’t know what good game design looks like. Just have maximum fun. Let the loot rain down all over. Increase rewards across the board for everything!
Then just let everyone have them and if they play alts they have Epics to start with.
Every Raid should drop 3 times the loot too. Every dungeon 3 times the loot. Every BG 3 times the honor. Every Arena or RBG 3 times the conquest. Get people in gear. It’s not serious like you say, let players have fun.
Accelerate the loot, open up the loot pinata in the accelerated Cata expansion. Just let the fun start.
PS - Let everyone get 3 times the experience too. Get people who enjoy Alts leveled faster and in BiS so they can have fun.
Cata doesn’t have to be disappoiting. Why not make it fun. Sounds like you don’t want that. So I won’t feed you anymore. Good luck and hope you find some joy in your life so you heart isn’t filled with hate anymore.
Another reason to have 3 times the loot. Accelerate it since the timeline is accelerated. You know what is fun? Getting the loot you want so you can enjoy playing with it. This also will have people playing more Alts because they are accessible. Alts now become fun to level and gear. You might just end up with a fun game. Heaven forbid.
Blizzard already mentioned that loot will reflect the expedited expansion in their blizzcon announcement. They did however give zero information on what this means and how they plan on implementing it. But at least there’s something. Could be the titan dungeons like wotlk, or more raid drops. Who knows
Well maybe they forgot about it. Maybe now is a good time to talk about it. Get people excited to play, level and gear. Again there is zero harm in getting everyone in BiS gear fast. There is zero harm in having everyone unlock all the epics from Archaelogy and will give more people a reason to do it. More reasons to try Alts.
Think MoP Remix has some good ideas and Cata should adopt them since it’s such a short expansions. Just do it up and maximize some fun for once. Key word fun.
You want Blizzard to play your character for you too?
You give people what they want and they just ask for more. Everyone will be bis then ask for next phase release within weeks. Just enjoy the game as it should be.
I don’t think SOD died but the reasons some players left isn’t because of gear lol. SOD also isn’t even remotely comparable too Cata.
No just don’t want them to be stingy with gear so people can’t have fun and enjoy this super fast expansion. So the accelerated gear makes perfect sense.
More players quit because they can’t get gear or have time to gear Alts. They never get to have fun.
Except each phase is already too fast. Hard to enjoy the game if you never got BiS before the next phase. The fun is attaining BiS then you can enjoy the game because you have BiS.
With this accelerated timeline accelerated gear and rewards is required. Let players have fun. No reason to have the same old boring drops as original Cata when we aren’t playing original Cata. Again, lets have some fun for once.
And with said accelerated timeline and what youre asking for (invreased rewards) is gonna cause MoP to come out within 6 months.
Accelerating the phase rewards also accelerates what players want and with this generation of ADD kids that want to speed run everything cause they can’t get dopamine anywhere else in life but video games, they’re gonna want next phase to go quicker and quicker because theyre bis and raid logging.
People who are bis don’t care about others being bis, they just want their next content available as soon as theyre done with the phase.
Cata endgame lets say would normally be in 9 to 12 months lets just say. You give everyone bis theyre gonna ask for next phase sooner and Cata end game will be in like 6 months.
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More people quit once they have bis cause content is over for them so they raid log. Not cause they had bad rng.
No it’s not. It’s just going to get players in the gear to match the accelerated timeline so they can enjoy the game.
Well they shouldn’t, they just get to finally enjoy the game since they are in BiS.
Since DS is in 7 months yea probably.
There more to this game then Raiding and you are wrong. Most people quit because of bad luck and RNG. They never get to have fun because it takes too long to get the loot or they don’t get the loot.
When I have BiS gear I want to play more because I have BiS loot to be enjoyed. MoP or the next thing is coming in a year irregardless of the accelerated loot changes. So let people have fun for once. Let them enjoy Alts. It’s a win.
When you get your main in BiS they can be enjoyed or guess what…You can now play an Alt and get them in BiS…then guess what…play another Alt and get them in BiS. You keep playing because there is more reason to play.
Nothing discouraged me from raiding more than the “RNG” associated with MC loot drops. JFC it was consistently paladin, rogue or druids getting 4-5 armor set drops while hunter might get 1 every other raid. Ofc that was on classic and almost no one was playing pal, rogue or Druid, so most drops were sharded. Nothing more disappointing than watching piece after piece of raid gear essentially go to waste, raid after raid.
And I wish more players were like you that would just enjoy the game after getting bis but for the majority of the community thats not the case. They will keep posting in forums about dead game dead content because they have what they need already and want the next phase to come out.
Yeah RNG no loot from raids sucks a lot. Ive raided classic to now and gone on dry spells for sure. But I’d rather keep the game at a good pace than people trying to speedrun and then complain there’s nothing to do cause they got bis put in 2 weeks.
There are more than you think. There are also more Altoholics than you think. Lets say you do get BiS well now you can focus on getting BiS on another toon, then another.
There is plenty to do in the game. There are archievements, there is open world, xmogs, mounts, professions, PvP etc. Getting BiS doesn’t make you not want want to play. It only gets you to finally being able to play the rest of the game.
The majority of the community doesn’t even Raid. The WoW forums are also not a great indicator either of what is happening. However maybe more people would play and even Raid if there were better chances of attaining loot. Especially in an accelerated game.
I want to keep the game at a good pace too. Since each phase is so fast gearing needs to match that. Again the game isn’t finished when you completed a Raid as that is a small part of the game. You got BiS now you can play the rest of the game. It’s an MMO enjoy it. Do some professions, PvP, achievements, old content, organize World events, WPvP, the list goes on.
I feel like you might be referring to this 1% that just Raid logs. Well who cares about them. Think the 99% might want to have fun and enjoy an MMO for once. There are tons of players that NEVER got loot in original Cata, maybe let them have fun this time around. Let everyone have fun!! Get them in BiS gear so they can play and enjoy the game. Especially since there is far less time.
Casual players that log in 1 hour a day and don’t have much time to Raid should also get BiS gear. The game should be for those majority players too and to give an MMO experience. The 1% isn’t the focus here.
Definitely not referring to the 1%. End of phase always has playerbase fall because theyre finished this current phase and waiting for next. Happens every phase evey xpac.
My observation isnt from forums only. Again, playerbase falls every end if phase.
And I’m agreeing with everything you say. What I’m talking about is the community. Plenty to do and people should enjoy it. I think you’re overestimating the community and underestimating how short their attention spans are.